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Old 01-23-2016, 11:21 PM
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Yes - V8 option would make me a buyer.... No ecoboost.
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Originally Posted by All Hat No Cattle
Strictly curiosity, I personally don't care either way. But would you prefer a lighter Raptor with more hp and torque, or the old, heavier model with a lower power V-8. And if the latter, why?
Oh, please don't get him started again. 02_Lightning has been throwing a **** fit about the ecoboost. He got a truck that had the evap/condensation issue and hasn't stopped bashing the ecoboost since. Never mind that it is a redesigned engine going in this Raptor, just because it has the ecoboost name, he thinks it will be crap.

Me on the other hand, I am all for having a more powerful, more capable truck. I couldn't care less that it has a turboed 6 instead of an outdated, heavy, underpowered V8.
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Originally Posted by Superman750
Oh, please don't get him started again. 02_Lightning has been throwing a **** fit about the ecoboost. He got a truck that had the evap/condensation issue and hasn't stopped bashing the ecoboost since. Never mind that it is a redesigned engine going in this Raptor, just because it has the ecoboost name, he thinks it will be crap.

Me on the other hand, I am all for having a more powerful, more capable truck. I couldn't care less that it has a turboed 6 instead of an outdated, heavy, underpowered V8.
Well as 02_Lightning is hailed as an expert on almost every Ford forum out there, I'm more inclined to listen to him.


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Originally Posted by Lockelamora
Well as 02_Lightning is hailed as an expert on almost every Ford forum out there, I'm more inclined to listen to him.


I wouldn't hold your breath. He won't be responding for a verrrry long time...
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Originally Posted by leikos
I think the blue is the one they're showing now. The original blue they used at launch was said to be some special multi-layer job that wouldn't have been feasible for production, hence why they said it wouldn't be available. The new blue seems to be a close approximation of that.
http://www.fordfusionforum.com/galle...ightning-blue/

If it is the same one that is one the fusion, I will be a happy camper!

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Oh, please don't get him started again. 02_Lightning has been throwing a **** fit about the ecoboost.
Oops, LOL. I'm not on the Raptor forum much, so I did not know it was such a contentious issue.

Just was curious if people still preferred engine size over performance.
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I like my v8 raptor... Has an SVC tune and it drives very nice. In just reading the forums, it looks like the ecoboost is fiun to drive but pretty questionable with issues. The question is not if it will fail, but when. I'm glad I don't have to worry about that with mine.
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Originally Posted by Lockelamora
What do you guys think the price range between the trims will be
If I had to fathom a guess, I would think starting around $52k and going up to $63-64k MSRP fully loaded (going with SuperCrew, SCab may be a little less). Based on pics I've seen on YouTube and forums it looks like the interior minimum would be the equivalent of a 501A packaged Lariat (around 52k) and fully loaded with 360 camera, pano sunroof, LED headlights, BLIS, plus all of the Raptor off road goodies would put it in the wheel house of a loaded Platinum/KR/Limited which tops out between $63-65k.
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Ford Performance has already stated that the true weight savings is only about 300lbs so I don't know where they get 500+. The 700lb number thrown to the public was the weight savings on a stripped down RCSB n/a 6cyl. The 'issue' if you will on the Raptor is that there is no getting around the heavy suspension components, maxed out interior packages and 35" tires. You'll have to special order one to get a stripper, every dealer will max them out because they can get more money for 'em.


I'm looking forward to what the Gen II eco brings but I wonder if the PTWA cylinder liners will support big boost like the iron liners from the Gen I would. Gen I had a spray in friction reducer but Gen II is supposed to get spray in liners vs iron sleeves to reduce weight.
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I had a 11 and a 13 Eco. Traded 13 for 13 raptor went back after 5 mos. that 6.2 is weak compared to Eco and now the next gen will be more powerfull!! No need for that 6.2 dog


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