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Old 05-03-2016, 05:26 PM
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Im new here, I didnt realize this is an instant message system,
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Originally Posted by Spamfritter
This may be in reference to the fact that the 10th generation trucks initially came in 1/2 and 3/4 ton variants. The F150 and F250 were offered in that body style before the 1998 Super Duty trucks first came out. Therefore, it's possible to get a diesel truck in the 10th generation F150 body style, albeit only in 1997.


1)super duties started for 1999
2)the 10th Gen F-250 never came with a diesel, and for that matter is wasn't a 3/4 ton, it was a slightly heavier built half ton. It came with the same V8s F-150s came with, and never did have a diesel, or a v10 option like the super duties. Also, they were not only offered for 1997, they also came for 1998 and a even few 99s were built.

Those were the light duty 250, there was a heavy duty 250, which did come with a diesel and was a 3/4 ton truck, built for 1997, but those did cease after the 1997 model year and those were carryover 9th Gen trucks, not 10th gens. The F-350 also continued as a 9th Gen for 1997.

The light duty F-250 continued on in a matter of speaking, not only for the rest of the 10th Gen run, but to this day. it just changed its name to the 7700, a "package" on the F-150. Which is probably what ford should have called it from the start.

No 10th Gen ever left the factory with a diesel.

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You lost me on that last one. Are you saying I don't ? Ford has been using diesel power plants in the F series for decades. I'd say your quite lost son. Dewey has an F250, it's who I was talking in the first place. LD or not, it was a comment about the diesel power plants in the other F series.

I agreed with your first comment, you seemed to understand were others did not. But this post, yea, it's out there, you haven't a clue.

So what ever your attempting to establish.....good luck.

I still have no idea what you guys are trying to do or say...don't get it. Guess there's been stranger things.
Ok, I guess you took me wrong on that one. Internet doesn't convey tone well lol, so blame the Internet.

But anyhow, I do have a clue, and I'm not saying jprevat or 2thousand don't know what they're talking about either, far from it. As to you, you restored one for Petes sake, so yeah, I think you might have a "slight inkling" about them.


And I'm quite aware that ford has been putting diesels in HD pickups since the 7th gens.

My only point was that diesels in a small or half ton truck isn't unheard of, so if someone, whoever they may be, doesn't know 10th gens (or trucks in general for that matter) all that well, it isn't a ridiculous idea that they may have come with a small diesel. That's all I meant by that post. You were talking about 10th gens, then mentioned 99 diesels without anymore specifics. So to anyone who doesn't know for sure that 10th gens never had diesels, that does sound like F-150s briefly had a diesel option of some sort in 1999.

No offense to those people either. We all started learning somewhere.
Old 05-03-2016, 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by nfldfordman


1)super duties started for 1999
2)the 10th Gen F-250 never came with a diesel, and for that matter is wasn't a 3/4 ton, it was a slightly heavier built half ton. It came with the same V8s F-150s came with, and never did have a diesel, or a v10 option like the super duties. Also, they were not only offered for 1997, they also came for 1998 and a even few 99s were built.

Those were the light duty 250, there was a heavy duty 250, which did come with a diesel and was a 3/4 ton truck, built for 1997, but those did cease after the 1997 model year and those were carryover 9th Gen trucks, not 10th gens. The F-350 also continued as a 9th Gen for 1997.

The light duty F-250 continued on in a matter of speaking, not only for the rest of the 10th Gen run, but to this day. it just changed its name to the 7700, a "package" on the F-150. Which is probably what ford should have called it from the start.

No 10th Gen ever left the factory with a diesel.


Ok, I guess you took me wrong on that one. Internet doesn't convey tone well lol, so blame the Internet.

But anyhow, I do have a clue, and I'm not saying jprevat or 2thousand don't know what they're talking about either, far from it. As to you, you restored one for Petes sake, so yeah, I think you might have a "slight inkling" about them.


And I'm quite aware that ford has been putting diesels in HD pickups since the 7th gens.

My only point was that diesels in a small or half ton truck isn't unheard of, so if someone, whoever they may be, doesn't know 10th gens (or trucks in general for that matter) all that well, it isn't a ridiculous idea that they may have come with a small diesel. That's all I meant by that post. You were talking about 10th gens, then mentioned 99 diesels without anymore specifics. So to anyone who doesn't know for sure that 10th gens never had diesels, that does sound like F-150s briefly had a diesel option of some sort in 1999.

No offense to those people either. We all started learning somewhere.
I guess you didn't understand my post, so the clue part....yea. Not sure there's any other way to convey what you said earlier. After reading your long post, I believe your trying to say you didn't mean it lol. What jprevat or 2thousand posted, can't believe they thought I was referring to a F150 diesel lol. Not in the USA as far as I know...darnit.
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Originally Posted by Dewey F250
Im new here, I didnt realize this is an instant message system,
Yup, the instant you post, people can answer right away.
Old 05-03-2016, 06:14 PM
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Yea ok, i'll figure this out, Ive been reading on this forum for probably 2 years, and for a while, it wouldnt let me subscribe, it wouldnt take my email or pw, but now I can actually chat with you guys and learn stuff, lol, so, i thank you for that.
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
What jprevat or 2thousand posted, can't believe they thought I was referring to a F150 diesel lol. Not in the USA as far as I know...darnit.
I didn't think you meant a diesel f150 but it kinda sounded like it so I got excited lol
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
I guess you didn't understand my post, so the clue part....yea. Not sure there's any other way to convey what you said earlier. After reading your long post, I believe your trying to say you didn't mean it lol. What jprevat or 2thousand posted, can't believe they thought I was referring to a F150 diesel lol. Not in the USA as far as I know...darnit.
So dumb it down for me, whatever you think I'm not getting? If there is something I'm not getting, you're also not getting what I'm saying.

I never did accuse you of not having a clue or not knowing about 10th gens. Ive got nothing to say I didn't mean?

a half ton, or even quarter ton, diesel pickup isn't a ridiculous idea. They existed before and do right now. it wouldn't have been altogether strange if ford had put a small diesel in the 10th gens. You and I know they didn't, but you can't expect everyone to know that. Like I said, we were all beginners at some point. Have you known the fact that all 10th gens came with gas engines from the day you were born? We're you literally born with the knowledge you have about trucks now? Don't think so.

I'm not, no one is, arguing the fact that the big 3's 3/4 tons and up have came with diesels since the 80s, ford included.

Here you go. Not out to belittle you or anyone, but (I'm talking to everyone now) here's that little conversation. What does your post sound like? Super duties aren't 10th gens, I think everyone here will agree that super duties don't follow that generation timeline.

Read it from the point of view of someone who doesn't know the difference. Not everyone has amassed your level of knowledge yet. If you can't agree that your post somewhat sounds like 99 F-150s had a brief diesel option, I rest my case. Then it seems as though you're implying that someone would be stupid to think that was possible. I merely pointed out that it wouldn't have been an industry first if ford had offered a diesel in the 10th gens, and you make it out to be me insulting your knowledge, as well as calling me clueless, and out of nowhere, doubting I'm aware that diesels have been a fairly mainstream option on HD trucks for decades

I rest my case. You're the one who blew a simple reminder that everyone isn't a complete expert, out of proportion.



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Old 05-03-2016, 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by Jbrew
If that was directed towards me. Well , the part that may be anyway, - I was referring to the F series diesels 10 gen. Ford built these trucks every year throughout the entire generation. Pointed out my favorite being the 99 F series. To get more specific, F250/350.

Still attempting to nail down what the otheres were talking about lol. I give, whatever lol.
I thought International built the 7.3?!? That's why the new ones are garbage is Ford split with International and began building the diesels themselves. At least that's how I understood it anyway. Nothing will ever beat the 7.3, except the older Cummins 6bt. You can't beat an inline motor for torque, less power gets robbed by opposing cylinders as there aren't any pulling against each other. That's why the 4.9 300 inline six that Ford made was a better pulling motor than the 302.
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Originally Posted by 2thousand5.4
I didn't think you meant a diesel f150 but it kinda sounded like it so I got excited lol
They had one here at Dearborn some time ago, but it was scratched for the US. Hey, you never know,-



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