At a loss
#11
Advanced Member
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Yea, you still have the same problem you had to begin with. It's a low grade misfire. They don't always show up in the KAM because your misfire monitor hasn't picked it up yet. The misfire count isn't high enough yet.
Your description of the miss is dead on for a bad coil with shorted winding turns.
At this point, it's just better (integrity wise) to change all the coils out at the same time with good ones.
There's only two manufacturers on the market who make Ford spec coils for your engine. - That's Motorcraft and Visteon which are identical builds and thermal protection. So either or and you get at least another 100,000 out of them.
Your description of the miss is dead on for a bad coil with shorted winding turns.
At this point, it's just better (integrity wise) to change all the coils out at the same time with good ones.
There's only two manufacturers on the market who make Ford spec coils for your engine. - That's Motorcraft and Visteon which are identical builds and thermal protection. So either or and you get at least another 100,000 out of them.
#12
Senior Member
EDIT: I guess there is a possible way for that to happen. Radio interference or perhaps a magnetic interference. This type of malfunction could perhaps pic on the better made coils and leave the lesser, junk coils alone. Like I said, it's possible, since the they leave stuff out of the knock-offs. I never heard of that happening...yet.
Last edited by Jbrew; 02-21-2015 at 03:48 PM.
#13
Advanced Member
iTrader: (-1)
There's just no way. Do you realize how many from various forums reported just the opposite over the last decade ? Yea, I've never heard of a complaint such as yours...Absolutely don't believe it. Your problem is other than a coil one..has to be, - unless you some how shorted the good ones out..something else was going on. I can't believe it's just that cut and dry as you say.
EDIT: I guess there is a possible way for that to happen. Radio interference or perhaps a magnetic interference. This type of malfunction could perhaps pic on the better made coils and leave the lesser, junk coils alone. Like I said, it's possible, since the they leave stuff out of the knock-offs. I never heard of that happening...yet.
EDIT: I guess there is a possible way for that to happen. Radio interference or perhaps a magnetic interference. This type of malfunction could perhaps pic on the better made coils and leave the lesser, junk coils alone. Like I said, it's possible, since the they leave stuff out of the knock-offs. I never heard of that happening...yet.
It wasn't just 1 cylinder fouling out all these coils. I would replace all 8. Sometimes #2 would go, #8, and #1 were the ones that fouled over once. I'm happy with Accel coils, they have done me good (knocking on wood)
#15
Senior Member
Yep, I promise to you bud. I have no reason to lie on some f150 forum about a bad experience, its not like I'm trying to make ford stop using Motorcraft
It wasn't just 1 cylinder fouling out all these coils. I would replace all 8. Sometimes #2 would go, #8, and #1 were the ones that fouled over once. I'm happy with Accel coils, they have done me good (knocking on wood)
It wasn't just 1 cylinder fouling out all these coils. I would replace all 8. Sometimes #2 would go, #8, and #1 were the ones that fouled over once. I'm happy with Accel coils, they have done me good (knocking on wood)
Were the Motorcraft coils paint marked, - were they truly Motorcraft Coils?
Have any pics, - I could tell yuh.
Yea, Accel sells great stuff. Unfortunately they purchase the same COP ignition coils from a barge overseas. Use them if you feel the need to take a chance with your dollars. But they are the normal single build magnet coils purchased from the very same merchant that MOST coils today come from sadly. Sometimes the die right away or shortly, but can last a couple years, - if your lucky. Anyway, they aren't half the coil that Visteon and Motrorcraft are and have been for many years. Look all this up if your in disbelief. I've been following this for many years...still do.
Right , your not lieing in all sense of the word, - you just don't know any better. I know enough to say, your passing bad info. If you don't care about some F150 site, you should at least care about misinforming people that are looking for help. At least have some dignity.
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Just to be clear for anyone who happens upon this thread, these are the coils to purchase, -
Motorcraft COP ignition coils, = Ford Spec. Always paint marked, - since there's so many that attempt to imitate.
Visteon COP ignition coils, = Ford Spec, = the same as Motorcraft but you get more value from you dollars at less than 1/2 the cost of Motorcraft.
WeaponX - These guys are fairly new, different builds. Rumored to be quality built..The verdict is still out, but there's been no complaints thus far.
If warranted, I can post up the differences of the real deals vrs others who attempt to weave their way into your pocket book.
#16
Not sure what you mean by "some", - like there's SOMEthing wrong with this site. What ever make you feel superior... No one accused you of being a liar (worlds from a guilty conscience I expect). As I pointed out, - your just none the wiser. There's some other underlying reason for your determination. This is what I'm attempting to help you with, - but, you have to listen in order to grow wiser..so to say.
Were the Motorcraft coils paint marked, - were they truly Motorcraft Coils?
Have any pics, - I could tell yuh.
Yea, Accel sells great stuff. Unfortunately they purchase the same COP ignition coils from a barge overseas. Use them if you feel the need to take a chance with your dollars. But they are the normal single build magnet coils purchased from the very same merchant that MOST coils today come from sadly. Sometimes the die right away or shortly, but can last a couple years, - if your lucky. Anyway, they aren't half the coil that Visteon and Motrorcraft are and have been for many years. Look all this up if your in disbelief. I've been following this for many years...still do.
Right , your not lieing in all sense of the word, - you just don't know any better. I know enough to say, your passing bad info. If you don't care about some F150 site, you should at least care about misinforming people that are looking for help. At least have some dignity.
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Just to be clear for anyone who happens upon this thread, these are the coils to purchase, -
Motorcraft COP ignition coils, = Ford Spec. Always paint marked, - since there's so many that attempt to imitate.
Visteon COP ignition coils, = Ford Spec, = the same as Motorcraft but you get more value from you dollars at less than 1/2 the cost of Motorcraft.
WeaponX - These guys are fairly new, different builds. Rumored to be quality built..The verdict is still out, but there's been no complaints thus far.
If warranted, I can post up the differences of the real deals vrs others who attempt to weave their way into your pocket book.
Were the Motorcraft coils paint marked, - were they truly Motorcraft Coils?
Have any pics, - I could tell yuh.
Yea, Accel sells great stuff. Unfortunately they purchase the same COP ignition coils from a barge overseas. Use them if you feel the need to take a chance with your dollars. But they are the normal single build magnet coils purchased from the very same merchant that MOST coils today come from sadly. Sometimes the die right away or shortly, but can last a couple years, - if your lucky. Anyway, they aren't half the coil that Visteon and Motrorcraft are and have been for many years. Look all this up if your in disbelief. I've been following this for many years...still do.
Right , your not lieing in all sense of the word, - you just don't know any better. I know enough to say, your passing bad info. If you don't care about some F150 site, you should at least care about misinforming people that are looking for help. At least have some dignity.
________________
Just to be clear for anyone who happens upon this thread, these are the coils to purchase, -
Motorcraft COP ignition coils, = Ford Spec. Always paint marked, - since there's so many that attempt to imitate.
Visteon COP ignition coils, = Ford Spec, = the same as Motorcraft but you get more value from you dollars at less than 1/2 the cost of Motorcraft.
WeaponX - These guys are fairly new, different builds. Rumored to be quality built..The verdict is still out, but there's been no complaints thus far.
If warranted, I can post up the differences of the real deals vrs others who attempt to weave their way into your pocket book.
#17
Senior Member
http://www.rpmoutlet.com/weapon-x-coils.htm
Yea there getting very popular amongst the Mustang guys and Shelby. There has been some issues. Bound to be some at first. Rpm outlet has been dealing in this market fro quite awhile. Their first was Moto-Blues. Some may recall.
Yea there getting very popular amongst the Mustang guys and Shelby. There has been some issues. Bound to be some at first. Rpm outlet has been dealing in this market fro quite awhile. Their first was Moto-Blues. Some may recall.
#18
Advanced Member
iTrader: (-1)
Not sure what you mean by "some", - like there's SOMEthing wrong with this site. What ever make you feel superior... No one accused you of being a liar (worlds from a guilty conscience I expect). As I pointed out, - your just none the wiser. There's some other underlying reason for your determination. This is what I'm attempting to help you with, - but, you have to listen in order to grow wiser..so to say.
Were the Motorcraft coils paint marked, - were they truly Motorcraft Coils?
Have any pics, - I could tell yuh.
Yea, Accel sells great stuff. Unfortunately they purchase the same COP ignition coils from a barge overseas. Use them if you feel the need to take a chance with your dollars. But they are the normal single build magnet coils purchased from the very same merchant that MOST coils today come from sadly. Sometimes the die right away or shortly, but can last a couple years, - if your lucky. Anyway, they aren't half the coil that Visteon and Motrorcraft are and have been for many years. Look all this up if your in disbelief. I've been following this for many years...still do.
Right , your not lieing in all sense of the word, - you just don't know any better. I know enough to say, your passing bad info. If you don't care about some F150 site, you should at least care about misinforming people that are looking for help. At least have some dignity.
________________
Just to be clear for anyone who happens upon this thread, these are the coils to purchase, -
Motorcraft COP ignition coils, = Ford Spec. Always paint marked, - since there's so many that attempt to imitate.
Visteon COP ignition coils, = Ford Spec, = the same as Motorcraft but you get more value from you dollars at less than 1/2 the cost of Motorcraft.
WeaponX - These guys are fairly new, different builds. Rumored to be quality built..The verdict is still out, but there's been no complaints thus far.
If warranted, I can post up the differences of the real deals vrs others who attempt to weave their way into your pocket book.
Were the Motorcraft coils paint marked, - were they truly Motorcraft Coils?
Have any pics, - I could tell yuh.
Yea, Accel sells great stuff. Unfortunately they purchase the same COP ignition coils from a barge overseas. Use them if you feel the need to take a chance with your dollars. But they are the normal single build magnet coils purchased from the very same merchant that MOST coils today come from sadly. Sometimes the die right away or shortly, but can last a couple years, - if your lucky. Anyway, they aren't half the coil that Visteon and Motrorcraft are and have been for many years. Look all this up if your in disbelief. I've been following this for many years...still do.
Right , your not lieing in all sense of the word, - you just don't know any better. I know enough to say, your passing bad info. If you don't care about some F150 site, you should at least care about misinforming people that are looking for help. At least have some dignity.
________________
Just to be clear for anyone who happens upon this thread, these are the coils to purchase, -
Motorcraft COP ignition coils, = Ford Spec. Always paint marked, - since there's so many that attempt to imitate.
Visteon COP ignition coils, = Ford Spec, = the same as Motorcraft but you get more value from you dollars at less than 1/2 the cost of Motorcraft.
WeaponX - These guys are fairly new, different builds. Rumored to be quality built..The verdict is still out, but there's been no complaints thus far.
If warranted, I can post up the differences of the real deals vrs others who attempt to weave their way into your pocket book.
By the way, Jbrew, this is just "some" F150 forum, because there's plenty more.
#19
Senior Member
I'm not passing "bad info" I'm passing my experience between Motorcraft and Accel. I purchased the motorcraft ones at O'Riley's, and finally after return after return they said they wouldn't do it anymore, that's when I bought new coils.
By the way, Jbrew, this is just "some" F150 forum, because there's plenty more.
By the way, Jbrew, this is just "some" F150 forum, because there's plenty more.
I don't care anymore, blast crap if that suits you.
#20
I've put some on my Old Mans 01 F-150 4.6L. I used the BorgWarner and had good luck with those, but I must agree. Either u have a problem elsewhere causing the coils to blow, or u have a serious moisture problem. Hell, maybe u live near Chernobyl and have experienced EMPs from Russian (not confirmed) nuclear tests idk, but there's no way those Motorcraft coils are blowing that frequently. Not even the Duralast crap from AutoZone would blow that bad. Coil packs ain't as complex as most people think they are, I personally think they are engineered in a more simplified way rather than the distributer cap and rotor.