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Old 10-30-2014, 08:05 PM
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Originally Posted by norcal screw
I would agree in some instances, But with factory Lightning headlights a must. The reflective pattern on mine have a flat line across the top of light output which made them a good candidate. My ladies tacoma bad Idea and had to remove them. They would blind anyone regardless of adjustment.
You. Cannot. Adjust. PNP HIDs. The reflective pattern of the headlight doesn't matter either way. When you put HIDs in a reflector type housing, the HIDs just scatter and throw light all over the place. That's why they seem brighter. The light output hasn't actually improved or increased.
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Originally Posted by Jackedup00
Its not that hard to understand. Hids=projectors.
Lol smh
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Originally Posted by Cmanjr

Lol smh
What?
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Originally Posted by norcal screw
Not everyone is an *** clown that's 20. My lights blind no one because of proper adjustment. They are no worse then retro's or any other car that has factory HID's. Not to mention knowing when and when not to use said lights, But it appears that light bars are okay and this is a HID haters thread..rediculous. All lights can be dangerous due to an idiot installer.
Light bars aren't ok for on-road use. Too much light, and they are built for off road. HIDs are a different story; they are built for a better night driving experience. There are clear ways to do it properly; OEM HID's, and retrofitting. They take Xenon bulbs, and turn them into usable, and safe lighting. PnP's do not. When put into a halogen-based housing, the light is scattered in the housing and blinding oncoming drivers. The housing cannot correctly focus the bulb's lighting, so you get a lack of usable light to boot.

This is why HID's are not meant for halogen-based housings; they are unable to properly harness and focus the lighting at all.

Take a look at this thread. It'll help explain things a bit better.
http://southrnfresh.com/2013/06/why-...s-you-a-ricer/
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I'm done. Your obviously an expert and my own very critical eyes are blind. We are at the point of he said, she said. Opinions differ, I'm blind and your an expert in lighting. All I can say is I disagree with you.
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Originally Posted by norcal screw
I'm done. Your obviously an expert and my own very critical eyes are blind. We are at the point of he said, she said. Opinions differ, I'm blind and your an expert in lighting. All I can say is I disagree with you.
I'm no expert by any stretch of the imagination. I'm just stating true and honest facts here. If you don't like what you see, fine. Regardless of what you think though, this will always be the truth weather you like it or not. If you want to see how good your lights are, compare them to a real and right HID setup. You'll see the difference; just as [MENTION=45175]BrowningSCrew[/MENTION], [MENTION=56361]iRub1Out[/MENTION], and every other member here who has a retrofit, factory HID setup, or who knows about these two options. You'll see everyone of them agrees with me.

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Well I've thoroughly tested mine against walls at varying distances and had my lady drive it behind me to make sure. I didn't do this blindly. I tested it with more doubt then all of you. The reflective pattern of my lights was very narrow and faint with halogens. The bi xenon solved the very poor light output and filled in the dull areas. Sorry if I came off the wrong way but in MY instance these worked out. I just got defensive cause of the very matter of fact attitude when They do not know the facts and assume I'm wrong no matter what cause they believe me to be.
Every situation is different and experiences differ. Not all will achieve the same result. Just because someone will back a homeboy/ friend blindly doesn't mean they are right in all instances. Notice mine are 35 watt not 55's. They are no where near blinding, just better light output for my instance, circumstances and head light housings. I can go on about opinions and attitudes based on what someone read on the internet. Untill the testing and real life situations are individually questioned and challenged who is right? Just because someone says they are doesn't mean the are.
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Originally Posted by norcal screw
Not everyone is an *** clown that's 20. My lights blind no one because of proper adjustment. They are no worse then retro's or any other car that has factory HID's. Not to mention knowing when and when not to use said lights, But it appears that light bars are okay and this is a HID haters thread..rediculous. All lights can be dangerous due to an idiot installer.
how'd u adjust em
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special tool and a wall at 50 ft. stood in front of them and made minor adjustments till it was perfect. top of beam is 30 inches off the deck and a max spread of 30 degrees @ 50ft
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Originally Posted by norcal screw
I'm done. Your obviously an expert and my own very critical eyes are blind. We are at the point of he said, she said. Opinions differ, I'm blind and your an expert in lighting. All I can say is I disagree with you.



Google is your frind:
https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...alogen+housing
http://www.reddit.com/r/cars/comment...stems_and_why/


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