Jbrew

Yea those pads are shot. Did you run EBC's on the front as well ? How did they do ??

Yea, I think I'm going to try the dorman braided lines. Simply and cheaper

blupupher

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I have Wagner Thermoquiet pads on the front. I have always had great results with them They do dust more than I would like, but wear great and stop well.

For my current rear pads, not sure what the are. When I pulled the EBC Green pads off, I was shocked and had no way to the parts store, so I pulled the pads off the spare axle I got for the anchor plate. They are working fine so far so I am not worried about it.

Jbrew

Well, - that endeavor ended up being worth less than a snot heifer.

So, - 97/98 have 12mm studs. Any Expy or 7700 with the larger set ups are 14mm. 97/98 Expy's had average 1/2 t front brakes as well. Guess no-ones attempted this mod with this model yet.

I would have to update the studs to 14's. Sounds a little extreme at the moment - i don't know..

DrillRig52

I don't know where carcrazygts has been but he did this mod with the 12mm studs. The trick he used was this.

Center the rotor the best you can.
Have someone hold the brakes.
Put wheels on and tighten lugs.

Even the trucks (like mine) with 14mm studs have some play between the studs and the rotor holes with the expy rotors. I was very worried about this when I initially did it as well. He told me he has ran his doing that method for over 30k miles with no issues.

That's what I did as well. Since then I have gotten a little lazy and at one point decided against aligning the rotor before putting the wheel on and I've had absolutely zero issues.

I'm not saying you should do the same with the 12mm studs, but I believe if you make sure they are aligned before you put the wheel on you will be good.

w0lvez

00-04 F150 studs are 14mm. Only Earlier 10th gen. use 12mm studs.

Jbrew

Thanks for the info, got me thinking. First I miked the studs, they are 14mm studs w/12mm thread. The lug hole openings in the current rotors are 14.5mm. So I would have to compare to be sure and can't really do that without going to the parts counter. Most likley they used 14mm studs to cut the 12mm threads. 16mm to cut 14mm threads. 2mm is like a 1/8" and it sucks the wheel lugs aren't self centering but! Center of the flange that the rotor and wheel mount on should be the same size I expect. From your post about what Crazy did almost confirms that unless it is indeed larger. Iduno, I think it's doable leaving studs 12mm and not likley to shift hitting a pot hole or like. I'll have to keep an eye on lug torque for awhile, but that's probably it. 500' lb's on the wheel and rotor holding them in place. It would take quit a hit to shift all that. I just hope the rotors center cut out and flange on the axle are the same.

white89gt

So..... even the 97 and 98 Expy's used 14mm rotors?

Jbrew

Rotors yes. The studs are 12mm thread, actually smaller like 11.57 (notice how loose the lug nuts are) but meant to be that way. The stud transitions to 14mm about a 1/2" from the flange. The rotor is approx 1/4" thick and sits on 14mm transition.

Jbrew

After my lecture at O'Riely's I doubt I'll be allowed in there anymore. They attempted to sell me new rotors after informing me that their good book says the manufacturer states these rotors aren't serviceable. I miked them and they're are well within Fords spec tolerance. I explained this to 4 people standing around with their useless thumbs up the wazoo. I just asked for a clean-up, they aren't gouged or nicked. They didn't even mike them, said I have to replace. Boy did I get hot, went from talking real fast to hot, then I left since they were just staring all frozen like. Hate that, makes me feel bad later.

Yea, those were my Brembo rotors, not OEM's anyway. Oh well, guess I can do what I wanted in the first pace now.

Krack499

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So are just the holes for the studs to large or is the one in the center for the hub too big also