Engine Builders talk.
#7561
#7562
Senior Member
Anyone seen this setup before? http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item...d=391066669087
#7563
#7565
Senior Member
Sorry guys been busy with life. A now 11 month old rug rat keeping us busy, work, side jobs, upgrades to the house, holidays, helping friends built or sell there homes, etc. I tried to answer all the questions yall asked!
Before I sold it I ended up taking the idler arm apart and had a buddy copy the Teflon bushing in them and make them out of brass. IIRC it was brass, so chances are the idler arm is good. I also lowered the torsion bars down some too so it wouldn't have as much angle as it did when I had it.
About the 2005. I emailed him I was like dude there wasn't even a 2005 L made. I also told him a few other things. And they said, " How do I know all this? Im the original owner and builder of this truck that's how" He replied why does the drivers side front bumper have 2005 on it then? I said there known as Saleen numbers. Lightings were numbered vehicles, they only made 4270 in 2003. The motor in that truck came out of the 2005th lightning made in 2003. Never heard back from him, nor did he ever correct the ad.
Yeah, he is asking more now than what I sold it to the original guy that bought it for in Oct of 2010.
I was afraid to add everything up but from stock to where it was when I sold it im willing to bet I had 75Kish into it.
And many agree but you would not built a truck of the caliber it was when I owned it for anywhere close to that. It was more than a motor swap. It has a one off custom stereo that was and still is the cleanest setup in a 97-03 I have ever seen. The stereo was the hardest part of selling it. The shop that did the work Cold Forged Customs in Houston is no long open. Everything else could be redone, the stereo system not so much. I lived in New Orleans. I drove the truck to Houston dropped it off at the shop, flew home and a week later when it was done I had a from coming in town from Houston to New Orleans drive it back to me. Hell, the wheels and tires alone cost me $3400. Not adding in the 3 sets of tires and 2 sets of wheels I had before them.
Here is a list of mods I listed on the for sale thread.
Interior Mods
Auto Meter Complete Replacement Cluster
Auto Meter Pillar Pod
Auto Meter Fuel Pressure Gauge
Auto Meter Vac/Boost Gauge(Back light starting to go out)
Auto Meter Oil Pressure Gauge(Back light starting to go out)
Auto Meter Steering Wheel Pod
Innovate XD Series Wideband
Kenwood DDX7015 Double Din TV With Navi and Rear View Camera
2 - 300/2 JL Amps and 1 - 500/1 JL Amps Custom Mounted In Expedition Console
6.5" MBQuart Components Front and Rear
2 - 10" MQuart SQL Subs In Custom Back Wall Box
Clarion TV Molded Into Rear of Expedition Console
BattCap 300
Video Amp with 4 Outputs
Clifford 3.5 Alarm with Auto Start and Window Roll Up and Down(Needs a Remote)
20% Tint on Front Windows and 20% Over Factory Tint on Rear Windows and Rear Glass
Handle Cups, Window Swtich Panels, Radio Bezel, Top Of Console, Rear of Consoul and Panels on Custom Sub Box Painted Dark Shadow Grey
Exterior
Reflexxions Cowl Hood
Shaved Door Moldings
Shaved Larait Strip
Shaved FX4 Decal
04 F150 TailGate Embles on Fenders and Tail Gate
White Fast Emblems Front and Rear
03 Harley Grill
Depo Clear Fog Lights
Clear L Corners With Sylvania SilverStar Bulbs
Sylvania Xenarcs HIDs
L Led 3rd Brake Light
Smoked Tail Lights
Line Of Fire LED Brake Light
Soft Bed Cover
Ford Rubber Bed Mat
Cut Stock Antenna
Navi Chrome Antenna Base Cap
3" Body Lift Tow Hitch( Its designed for trucks with Body Lifts)
15" Drop Hitch
Line X'ed N-Fab Running Bars
Suspension
6" Fabtech Suspension Lift
3" Body Lift
Torsion Keys
5" Rear Blocks
ProComp Tractions Bars
Rancho Steering Stabilizer
Dana Spicer Pitman Arm
Moog Upper and Lower Ball Joints
Moog Inner and Outter Tie Rod Ends
TA Rearend Cover
Rotorpro Slotted Only Rotors with Hawk HPS Pads(Will Include NEW Front Slotted Only Rotors)
4.56 Yukon Gears
4 - Bilstein 5150 Shocks
Stud to Eye Shock Conversion
Lightning Rear Sway Bar with Custom End Links
20x10 Cruise Alloy Wheels(Starting to Pit a Little)
38X15.50XR20 Toyo Open Country M/T
Performance/Underhood
2003 Ford Lightning Motor From #2005 Lightning
4# Lower
Home Ported Throttle Body
Home Ported and Custom EGR Deleted Plenum Painted Dark Shadow Grey
Home Ported C&L Elbow Painted Dark Shadow Grey
Mad Fuel Pressure Sending Unit Remote Mount
L&S Oil Separator
90MM MAF
MAF Air Filter Adaptor
K&N Filter
Metco Aux Pulley 100MM
100MM Idler Pulley
Gator Back Belt Motor and Blower
Flex-a-lite Monster 270 with New Style Controller
JLP Street Reservoir
AFCO Single Pass Heat Exchanger with 2 6.5" SPAL EFans
Factory Tech Shift Plate
Factory Tech Tranny Cooler with 8" SPAL Fan
Tranny Lines Bypassing the Radiator
Not Front Cats Y'ed Into Single 3.5" AeroTurnine 3535XL Diesel Muffler Out the Side with a 4" MBRP Tip
255LPH Bosch Fuel Pump
TUNED BY WES @ TPSPERFORMANCE.COM
331RWHP/411RWTQ
Yeah me too LOL!
My Original asking price was 20K in 2009. It took me just about a year to sell and between the money I got for the truck and the parts I removed from it and later sold I got a little over 18K for it IIRC.
My guess would be that is a complete lie. Maybe exhaust but the only thing that he could have upgraded is from manifolds to LTs and catless midpipes. The set up when I sold it was OEM manifolds, 2.5" pipe, removed front cats, stock rear cats, 2.5" exiting each cat, then from there I Y'ed it into a single 3.5" pipe then into a AeroTurbine 3535XL Diesel 3.5' Inlet 3.5" Outlet Muffler, then angled it out the side like a Lightning with a 4" double walled MBRP tip. Everything behind the Y was stainless, from the Y forward was aluminized steel. Damn I miss the sound of it!
Yep! The person who bought it from me was a 46Yr old man that was soon to retire from being a Military surgical nurse.
If it wasn't for a women, id prolly still have it. LoL Just Kidding. It was a good decision to sell it. Works OT was slacking off a lot and I honestly couldn't afford to drive it $4 gallon for 93 and 10MPG on the highway wasn't light on the pocket books. And you can drive something like that with playing, so that 10 was much much lower lol. Paid off my other truck, paid off the wifes car, paid for our honeymoon, and put 5-6K in the bank. After I put the motor in it I only drive it around town and to GTGs in 2 years I only put 6K miles on it. So while it still had some value to it I decided to sell it.
That would be funny for sure! The truck never seen mud when I had it. Stayed cleaner than most Vettes on the road!
Wayne
@Z7What's truck spotted for sale in Jax. Again... lol. Wonder if it still requires a new idler arm at every oil change?
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And love that 2005 L engine!
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And love that 2005 L engine!
About the 2005. I emailed him I was like dude there wasn't even a 2005 L made. I also told him a few other things. And they said, " How do I know all this? Im the original owner and builder of this truck that's how" He replied why does the drivers side front bumper have 2005 on it then? I said there known as Saleen numbers. Lightings were numbered vehicles, they only made 4270 in 2003. The motor in that truck came out of the 2005th lightning made in 2003. Never heard back from him, nor did he ever correct the ad.
Yeah, he is asking more now than what I sold it to the original guy that bought it for in Oct of 2010.
Here is a list of mods I listed on the for sale thread.
Interior Mods
Auto Meter Complete Replacement Cluster
Auto Meter Pillar Pod
Auto Meter Fuel Pressure Gauge
Auto Meter Vac/Boost Gauge(Back light starting to go out)
Auto Meter Oil Pressure Gauge(Back light starting to go out)
Auto Meter Steering Wheel Pod
Innovate XD Series Wideband
Kenwood DDX7015 Double Din TV With Navi and Rear View Camera
2 - 300/2 JL Amps and 1 - 500/1 JL Amps Custom Mounted In Expedition Console
6.5" MBQuart Components Front and Rear
2 - 10" MQuart SQL Subs In Custom Back Wall Box
Clarion TV Molded Into Rear of Expedition Console
BattCap 300
Video Amp with 4 Outputs
Clifford 3.5 Alarm with Auto Start and Window Roll Up and Down(Needs a Remote)
20% Tint on Front Windows and 20% Over Factory Tint on Rear Windows and Rear Glass
Handle Cups, Window Swtich Panels, Radio Bezel, Top Of Console, Rear of Consoul and Panels on Custom Sub Box Painted Dark Shadow Grey
Exterior
Reflexxions Cowl Hood
Shaved Door Moldings
Shaved Larait Strip
Shaved FX4 Decal
04 F150 TailGate Embles on Fenders and Tail Gate
White Fast Emblems Front and Rear
03 Harley Grill
Depo Clear Fog Lights
Clear L Corners With Sylvania SilverStar Bulbs
Sylvania Xenarcs HIDs
L Led 3rd Brake Light
Smoked Tail Lights
Line Of Fire LED Brake Light
Soft Bed Cover
Ford Rubber Bed Mat
Cut Stock Antenna
Navi Chrome Antenna Base Cap
3" Body Lift Tow Hitch( Its designed for trucks with Body Lifts)
15" Drop Hitch
Line X'ed N-Fab Running Bars
Suspension
6" Fabtech Suspension Lift
3" Body Lift
Torsion Keys
5" Rear Blocks
ProComp Tractions Bars
Rancho Steering Stabilizer
Dana Spicer Pitman Arm
Moog Upper and Lower Ball Joints
Moog Inner and Outter Tie Rod Ends
TA Rearend Cover
Rotorpro Slotted Only Rotors with Hawk HPS Pads(Will Include NEW Front Slotted Only Rotors)
4.56 Yukon Gears
4 - Bilstein 5150 Shocks
Stud to Eye Shock Conversion
Lightning Rear Sway Bar with Custom End Links
20x10 Cruise Alloy Wheels(Starting to Pit a Little)
38X15.50XR20 Toyo Open Country M/T
Performance/Underhood
2003 Ford Lightning Motor From #2005 Lightning
4# Lower
Home Ported Throttle Body
Home Ported and Custom EGR Deleted Plenum Painted Dark Shadow Grey
Home Ported C&L Elbow Painted Dark Shadow Grey
Mad Fuel Pressure Sending Unit Remote Mount
L&S Oil Separator
90MM MAF
MAF Air Filter Adaptor
K&N Filter
Metco Aux Pulley 100MM
100MM Idler Pulley
Gator Back Belt Motor and Blower
Flex-a-lite Monster 270 with New Style Controller
JLP Street Reservoir
AFCO Single Pass Heat Exchanger with 2 6.5" SPAL EFans
Factory Tech Shift Plate
Factory Tech Tranny Cooler with 8" SPAL Fan
Tranny Lines Bypassing the Radiator
Not Front Cats Y'ed Into Single 3.5" AeroTurnine 3535XL Diesel Muffler Out the Side with a 4" MBRP Tip
255LPH Bosch Fuel Pump
TUNED BY WES @ TPSPERFORMANCE.COM
331RWHP/411RWTQ
My Original asking price was 20K in 2009. It took me just about a year to sell and between the money I got for the truck and the parts I removed from it and later sold I got a little over 18K for it IIRC.
Yep! The person who bought it from me was a 46Yr old man that was soon to retire from being a Military surgical nurse.
If it wasn't for a women, id prolly still have it. LoL Just Kidding. It was a good decision to sell it. Works OT was slacking off a lot and I honestly couldn't afford to drive it $4 gallon for 93 and 10MPG on the highway wasn't light on the pocket books. And you can drive something like that with playing, so that 10 was much much lower lol. Paid off my other truck, paid off the wifes car, paid for our honeymoon, and put 5-6K in the bank. After I put the motor in it I only drive it around town and to GTGs in 2 years I only put 6K miles on it. So while it still had some value to it I decided to sell it.
Wayne
Last edited by Z7What; 03-01-2015 at 09:24 PM.
#7566
Senior Member
He put either a brand new or like 2000 mile factory lightning engine after he toasted a piston in his factory NA engine. Also had rebuilt front and rear diffs, with yukon lockers I believe. Also all new suspension/bushings, custom interior, etc. It was clean as it gets. Well it doesn't look like it anymore. Those wheels look like hell now
The truck was run for sure, weighed 6800lbs with me in it pulled a best of 2.08 60' and ran a 14.56@91MPH. It surprised ALOT of cars! With a better tune theirs no doubt in my mind that it had a 13 in her. I just sold it before I could get it.
The person who bought it from me Rick changed the windshield, put a bed liner in it and ended up having to change one of the CV shafts 2 or 3 times. He also snapped a front axle that he had to replace. He put less than 10K miles on it. I had it for 97K and never had to do anything like that. Infact, the DAY AFTER HE TOOK DELIVERY the OEM CV boot ripped. Guess the angled CV shafts finally had enough.
I sure do miss it, don't think ill ever build something as nice again(Kid, Wife, House, Etc) but it was fun when I had her. Made some of the best friends in the world while building her. Infact 3 of the 5 groomsman in my wedding was from the forum!
Wayne
#7567
Senior Member
[MENTION=141720]Z7What[/MENTION] glad to see you back man. Me & jferg are getting closer to completing the blower swaps. Glad to have guys like you, Todd, Adam, Dave & Derek to turn to. Btw. Having a meet & greet at my place in Florida this October. You're more than welcome to join us.
#7568
Senior Member
@Z7What glad to see you back man. Me & jferg are getting closer to completing the blower swaps. Glad to have guys like you, Todd, Adam, Dave & Derek to turn to. Btw. Having a meet & greet at my place in Florida this October. You're more than welcome to join us.
Thanks! The wife and I normally take our annual trip over to Jacksonville/St Augustine to visit my truck, just kidding, to visit her family there in July. We normally spend a few days there then head down to the happiest place on earth for a few days before turning around and coming home. Not sure exactly what we are going to do this year with the addition of the little man but ill let ya know. Chances are its not looking good, October starts turn around at work which means 7-12s.
Wayne
Last edited by Z7What; 03-01-2015 at 09:57 PM.
#7569
Thanks! The wife and I normally take out annual trip over to Jacksonville/St Augustine to visit my truck, just kidding, to visit her family there in July. We normally spend a few days there then head down to the happiest place on earth for a few days before turning around and coming home. Not sure exactly what we are going to do this year with the addition of the little man but ill let ya know. Chances are its not looking good, October starts turn around at work which means 7-12s.
Wayne