Burning Oil Somewhere. Where to Start Looking?
08-23-2016, 02:02 PM
#11
Senior Member
330,000 plus miles, doesn't use a drop of oil between changes to date, - never has with this 5four. Always a 1/4" down from the top hash on the stick..never budges. Guess I got lucky with one, runs strong, it should be getting tired by now lol.
However, every now and again, I hear a faint knock. Might be piston slap.
BTW - 3000 mile change regimen. Running either 5/20blend MC or Castrol w/FL820 or Purolator...about the same thing.
However, every now and again, I hear a faint knock. Might be piston slap.
BTW - 3000 mile change regimen. Running either 5/20blend MC or Castrol w/FL820 or Purolator...about the same thing.
Last edited by Jbrew; 08-23-2016 at 02:05 PM.
08-23-2016, 02:53 PM
#12
Looking for a Henway.
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330,000 plus miles, doesn't use a drop of oil between changes to date, - never has with this 5four. Always a 1/4" down from the top hash on the stick..never budges. Guess I got lucky with one, runs strong, it should be getting tired by now lol.
However, every now and again, I hear a faint knock. Might be piston slap.
BTW - 3000 mile change regimen. Running either 5/20blend MC or Castrol w/FL820 or Purolator...about the same thing.
However, every now and again, I hear a faint knock. Might be piston slap.
BTW - 3000 mile change regimen. Running either 5/20blend MC or Castrol w/FL820 or Purolator...about the same thing.
I have had it for around 16,000 miles and has always needed a qt of oil every 1500 miles or so.
08-23-2016, 04:12 PM
#13
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1 qt per 1000 miles is AOkay says Ford. - I think they are attempting to reduce the complaints. It may be okay, but it's not the norm. Probably an ethanol thing I expect, since that came into play after the fact. Long ago it was rumored this would happen which forwared the cash for clunker program. Engines have been getting hardened seats to handle the additive since (hardened to different standards), - we definitely did not in these engines. Hard to get ethonal free, but you can cut it down to just 10% with some stations, you have to look around to find them. I've steering clear of for awhile, but you can't avoid today, - 10% is the lowest in this area.
Last edited by Jbrew; 08-23-2016 at 04:15 PM.
08-23-2016, 04:26 PM
#14
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Wow... 10% is the max allowed here. Every station has a sticker on each pump that says "May contain up to 10% ethanol". It may be an altitude thing, because our highest octane available is also 91 - with very few offering 93.
like I was saying in another thread, I finally have a station that carries a guaranteed ethanol free product. It's about 4 miles from work too, so that makes me happy.
I found this website below a while back that has a listing of what stations carry ethanol free fuel. Mind you, it is an open user site, so anyone can go enter or alter the info. I went to stations on the UT list that were not correct.... but it's still handy.
http://www.pure-gas.org/
SIDE NOTE: The ethanol free at the station is supposedly only mid-grade fuel (88 octane). But it's better for my truck than 91 with ethanol IMHO.
like I was saying in another thread, I finally have a station that carries a guaranteed ethanol free product. It's about 4 miles from work too, so that makes me happy.
I found this website below a while back that has a listing of what stations carry ethanol free fuel. Mind you, it is an open user site, so anyone can go enter or alter the info. I went to stations on the UT list that were not correct.... but it's still handy.
http://www.pure-gas.org/
SIDE NOTE: The ethanol free at the station is supposedly only mid-grade fuel (88 octane). But it's better for my truck than 91 with ethanol IMHO.
Last edited by white89gt; 08-23-2016 at 04:28 PM.
08-23-2016, 08:48 PM
#15
Suggestions, well I guess I'll have to ask some obvious questions since you haven't offered up the info yet.
Which model year ? It matters, since your using the wrong viscosity and you must not of received the memo.
Sounds like you care, so using the recommended viscosity would be best. The correct oil has better wear ratings and helps the economy a little.
How far down is the oil on the stick from the top notch? Something isn't making sense. Did you change the oil correctly, when it's hot?
How do you change your oil lol? What's your system/method. Like I said, something isn't right.
Which model year ? It matters, since your using the wrong viscosity and you must not of received the memo.
Sounds like you care, so using the recommended viscosity would be best. The correct oil has better wear ratings and helps the economy a little.
How far down is the oil on the stick from the top notch? Something isn't making sense. Did you change the oil correctly, when it's hot?
How do you change your oil lol? What's your system/method. Like I said, something isn't right.
Last time I went 3500 - 4000, It did not even register on the dip stick. After I added a quart it read about halfway.
I did not know you were supposed to change it when hot. I have always just done it whenever.
Thanks for your help JBrew.
08-23-2016, 08:57 PM
#16
Senior Member
1998. I have always used 5w30 since that is what is printed under the hood. Never thought it could change! Last time I went 3500 - 4000, It did not even register on the dip stick. After I added a quart it read about halfway. I did not know you were supposed to change it when hot. I have always just done it whenever. Thanks for your help JBrew.
Always change the oil when hot because you will get more of it out versus when it's cold
Oh and use Motorcraft filters, they are the best for these engines.
08-23-2016, 09:30 PM
#17
Looking for a Henway.
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Please explain how changing the oil hot gets out more oil than changing it cold?
If the oil is hot that means that the engine has been run recently and there is oil higher up in the engine that has not drained to the pan.
If you change it cold, all the oil that is going to drain down has drained down so there is more oil in the pan. Sure when cold the oil does not flow as fast, but it will still all drain out.
In reality it does not make a huge difference either way. I usually do mine cold since I don't like burning my hands with hot oil from the stupid filter.
I used to be a firm believer in the Motorcraft filters (made by Purolator) but the quality has gone down on them the past few years. Lots of reports on BITOG of the FL820S tearing with even 3000 mile oil change intervals.
I have a few Car Quest Red filters I have been using (made by Wix) and not sure what to
If the oil is hot that means that the engine has been run recently and there is oil higher up in the engine that has not drained to the pan.
If you change it cold, all the oil that is going to drain down has drained down so there is more oil in the pan. Sure when cold the oil does not flow as fast, but it will still all drain out.
In reality it does not make a huge difference either way. I usually do mine cold since I don't like burning my hands with hot oil from the stupid filter.
I used to be a firm believer in the Motorcraft filters (made by Purolator) but the quality has gone down on them the past few years. Lots of reports on BITOG of the FL820S tearing with even 3000 mile oil change intervals.
I have a few Car Quest Red filters I have been using (made by Wix) and not sure what to
08-23-2016, 10:43 PM
#18
Senior Member
Please explain how changing the oil hot gets out more oil than changing it cold? If the oil is hot that means that the engine has been run recently and there is oil higher up in the engine that has not drained to the pan. If you change it cold, all the oil that is going to drain down has drained down so there is more oil in the pan. Sure when cold the oil does not flow as fast, but it will still all drain out. In reality it does not make a huge difference either way. I usually do mine cold since I don't like burning my hands with hot oil from the stupid filter. I used to be a firm believer in the Motorcraft filters (made by Purolator) but the quality has gone down on them the past few years. Lots of reports on BITOG of the FL820S tearing with even 3000 mile oil change intervals. I have a few Car Quest Red filters I have been using (made by Wix) and not sure what to
08-23-2016, 11:28 PM
#19
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08-23-2016, 11:54 PM
#20
Originally Posted by Jbrew
1 qt per 1000 miles is AOkay says Ford. - I think they are attempting to reduce the complaints. It may be okay, but it's not the norm. Probably an ethanol thing I expect, since that came into play after the fact. Long ago it was rumored this would happen which forwared the cash for clunker program. Engines have been getting hardened seats to handle the additive since (hardened to different standards), - we definitely did not in these engines. Hard to get ethonal free, but you can cut it down to just 10% with some stations, you have to look around to find them. I've steering clear of for awhile, but you can't avoid today, - 10% is the lowest in this area.
Ethanol free is all over where I'm from. I can get it in 87 or 93. Come to think of it, I think I swapped my pcv valve around the same time I quit running 93 ethanol free.... I happened to fill up this time with 93 and switched my tune over for ****s and giggles.