forrest3

Thanx for you guys being here!..So I had had the 4x4 engagement problem about a year ago ( would sometimes work and then not)... I removed the gem and washed it with electronic cleaner and blew it of..sprayed contact cleaner on all the contacts..reassembled and all was well for a year or so..now again..I noticed that if i disconnect the battery for a minute or so and reconnect it would work..would engage in 4 high and low..but would then not disengage unless i disconnected the batt. again..sounds like the gem is being reset with each disc. of the battery..so I assume the gem has finally gone bad..what do you guys think?.. Thanx! 1997 f150 4.6 lariat 4x4 e.s.o.f..stepside.. loaded..had this truck since 1998 and i love it!

Carcrazygts2

Bad GEM and possibility of corrosion inside the fuse box due to leaking front windshield. I'm having the same issue. Its also quicker to just pull the turn signal/4wd/GEM 10a fuse.

forrest3

Thanx,,pulling the fuse is a much better idea! anyway..no leaking from the windshield on this truck...no corrosion..the gem part # is F65B-14B205-Cb..from what I read I can use a cc or cd .. am I right? and is ebay the best place to find these? Thanx a bunch!

Carcrazygts2

Sorry to inform you but the only way a GEM goes bad is when the front windshield starts leaking on the driver side. Its when it gets wet it takes out electrical components. The windshield leaks and runs right down the main harness's that plug into the gem.

Even if you find the same exact gem part number you will still need to get it programmed. Here is the updated part number from ford for trucks equipped with ESoF. F85Z14B205NA

forrest3

Thanx,,well I'm lost for words..the only issue I can find is with the gem...everything works when I reset the power..I did this a dozen times or so..did not find any evidence of moisture etc. I own a classic car restoration shop and have a full line of tools etc.. I even have the "2 foot" thick factory manuals (1 and 2) with the e.v.t.m manual, ..all parts for the 4x4 (relays, solenoids, vacuum are functional..just have to reset the gem each time for it to work..soo..I don't have the STAR reader..have a obd can bus reader though..what does a dealer charge (approx) to program the new gem? I have not had ANY one else work on any of my cars/trucks (newer to 2014 to my good 'ol f150) in the last 35 years..proud to say..I guess this may be my first time? can I program it myself? I have a electronics degree if needed! Thank you very much for all your expertise!

Carcrazygts2

Dealer charged me $200 to reprogram the gem. I had installed the new one before hand. They can program it with the Ford IDS. They get the correct coding from a vin search.

twoskinsoneman

What's the deal with the programming? I replaced the GEM in mine a few months ago and did not have it programmed. There is no perceptible change in the way it runs.

Carcrazygts2

You must have gotten lucky and the replacement you recieved had the same exact programming code. I didnt and had to have it reprogrammed, because 4wd didnt work, and the windows didnt work.

forrest3

Thanx guys.. I read around the internet of others that did not have to program...sometimes the gem is listed what it came out of and the options it had..might get lucky also! I t my be that car crazy got a new one that was not programmed at all yet..Thanx!