1997 F150 4.6 4x4 Not Working
#1
1997 F150 4.6 4x4 Not Working
Hello all,
I am a long time reader, first time poster. Thanks for all the info I have seen so far. I have done some reading of other threads, but can't decipher if any of the issues are the same as I am having. So here it goes...
I have a 1997 Ford F150 4x4 4.6L extended cab with 180000 miles. Rusty but trusty. I have had 4x4 engagement issues before with the truck, and ended up having to replace the front axle shifter fork and collar. Thanks to forums like this, it was possible for me to do myself. Now I have a different issue. The 4x4 light will not come on at all when in 4 hi or 4 low in with the transmission in neutral. The things I have done are check every single fuse the truck has, all are in working order. I have replaced the shifter switch with a known working used one, no luck. When I turn the ****, I hear clicking from the relay in the middle of the dash, but the 4x4 light does not come on. The front driveshaft is able to be spun when I have the **** in the 4 hi or 4 lo position. I have pulled the GEM module out to see if I had the dreaded windshield leak issue, and it appears that all connections look great, and there does not appear to be any burn marks on the circuitry. I also tested to see if the vacuum solenoids were getting the correct signals. It only stays on 2 wheel vacuum (by testing the ground connection to the solenoids), it does not switch when I turn the ****. So at this point I am under the belief that I have an issue with the transfer case shift motor or something related, and that when it does not work, it does not give the signal to the vacuum solenoids to switch or allow the 4x4 light to come on. If I am correct, how do I test to see what is the issue at the transfer case?
WOW that was a long post. Hope someone out there can understand what I am saying, as I am not a pro mechanic by any means (as if you couldn't tell by the post) Thanks in advance for any help!!!!!
I am a long time reader, first time poster. Thanks for all the info I have seen so far. I have done some reading of other threads, but can't decipher if any of the issues are the same as I am having. So here it goes...
I have a 1997 Ford F150 4x4 4.6L extended cab with 180000 miles. Rusty but trusty. I have had 4x4 engagement issues before with the truck, and ended up having to replace the front axle shifter fork and collar. Thanks to forums like this, it was possible for me to do myself. Now I have a different issue. The 4x4 light will not come on at all when in 4 hi or 4 low in with the transmission in neutral. The things I have done are check every single fuse the truck has, all are in working order. I have replaced the shifter switch with a known working used one, no luck. When I turn the ****, I hear clicking from the relay in the middle of the dash, but the 4x4 light does not come on. The front driveshaft is able to be spun when I have the **** in the 4 hi or 4 lo position. I have pulled the GEM module out to see if I had the dreaded windshield leak issue, and it appears that all connections look great, and there does not appear to be any burn marks on the circuitry. I also tested to see if the vacuum solenoids were getting the correct signals. It only stays on 2 wheel vacuum (by testing the ground connection to the solenoids), it does not switch when I turn the ****. So at this point I am under the belief that I have an issue with the transfer case shift motor or something related, and that when it does not work, it does not give the signal to the vacuum solenoids to switch or allow the 4x4 light to come on. If I am correct, how do I test to see what is the issue at the transfer case?
WOW that was a long post. Hope someone out there can understand what I am saying, as I am not a pro mechanic by any means (as if you couldn't tell by the post) Thanks in advance for any help!!!!!
#2
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Hello all,
I am a long time reader, first time poster. Thanks for all the info I have seen so far. I have done some reading of other threads, but can't decipher if any of the issues are the same as I am having. So here it goes...
I have a 1997 Ford F150 4x4 4.6L extended cab with 180000 miles. Rusty but trusty. I have had 4x4 engagement issues before with the truck, and ended up having to replace the front axle shifter fork and collar. Thanks to forums like this, it was possible for me to do myself. Now I have a different issue. The 4x4 light will not come on at all when in 4 hi or 4 low in with the transmission in neutral. The things I have done are check every single fuse the truck has, all are in working order. I have replaced the shifter switch with a known working used one, no luck. When I turn the ****, I hear clicking from the relay in the middle of the dash, but the 4x4 light does not come on. The front driveshaft is able to be spun when I have the **** in the 4 hi or 4 lo position. I have pulled the GEM module out to see if I had the dreaded windshield leak issue, and it appears that all connections look great, and there does not appear to be any burn marks on the circuitry. I also tested to see if the vacuum solenoids were getting the correct signals. It only stays on 2 wheel vacuum (by testing the ground connection to the solenoids), it does not switch when I turn the ****. So at this point I am under the belief that I have an issue with the transfer case shift motor or something related, and that when it does not work, it does not give the signal to the vacuum solenoids to switch or allow the 4x4 light to come on. If I am correct, how do I test to see what is the issue at the transfer case?
WOW that was a long post. Hope someone out there can understand what I am saying, as I am not a pro mechanic by any means (as if you couldn't tell by the post) Thanks in advance for any help!!!!!
I am a long time reader, first time poster. Thanks for all the info I have seen so far. I have done some reading of other threads, but can't decipher if any of the issues are the same as I am having. So here it goes...
I have a 1997 Ford F150 4x4 4.6L extended cab with 180000 miles. Rusty but trusty. I have had 4x4 engagement issues before with the truck, and ended up having to replace the front axle shifter fork and collar. Thanks to forums like this, it was possible for me to do myself. Now I have a different issue. The 4x4 light will not come on at all when in 4 hi or 4 low in with the transmission in neutral. The things I have done are check every single fuse the truck has, all are in working order. I have replaced the shifter switch with a known working used one, no luck. When I turn the ****, I hear clicking from the relay in the middle of the dash, but the 4x4 light does not come on. The front driveshaft is able to be spun when I have the **** in the 4 hi or 4 lo position. I have pulled the GEM module out to see if I had the dreaded windshield leak issue, and it appears that all connections look great, and there does not appear to be any burn marks on the circuitry. I also tested to see if the vacuum solenoids were getting the correct signals. It only stays on 2 wheel vacuum (by testing the ground connection to the solenoids), it does not switch when I turn the ****. So at this point I am under the belief that I have an issue with the transfer case shift motor or something related, and that when it does not work, it does not give the signal to the vacuum solenoids to switch or allow the 4x4 light to come on. If I am correct, how do I test to see what is the issue at the transfer case?
WOW that was a long post. Hope someone out there can understand what I am saying, as I am not a pro mechanic by any means (as if you couldn't tell by the post) Thanks in advance for any help!!!!!
The polarity should be changing at the actuators by way of the GEM. The fact that they arent changing leads me to believe they are not getting the signal to switch over.
#3
Ok so what I am hearing is that this is an intermittent problem? What happens when you manually engage your trans case?
The polarity should be changing at the actuators by way of the GEM. The fact that they arent changing leads me to believe they are not getting the signal to switch over.
The polarity should be changing at the actuators by way of the GEM. The fact that they arent changing leads me to believe they are not getting the signal to switch over.
Last edited by Steve Sanders; 09-22-2015 at 06:31 PM.
#4
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Im really leaning toward your gem here. It is reason the polarity changes. If the wires leading to the solenoids arent dead and simply arent switching then I would look at the gem first.