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Old 01-26-2008, 03:04 AM
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The ford syn-blend is very good oil and the motorcraft filters are some of the best on the market (this has been proven in several filter tests) I change my oil every 4000 miles and our trucks do not turn high RPMS, so for me there is no reason for full syn. I recently switched from mobil 1 oil filters in my vette to bosch, because the mobil 1's scored very low in an anti drain back test. I do use mobil one oil in the vette, but it see's 7500 RPM often.
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The way you worded your previous post, you made it seem like the cheaper stuff is just as good as the synthetic stuff since it has passed the rating system....actually that is basically what you said.
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Well then, it isn't what I meant to say. I meant that since it has the API cetification, then it IS acceptable oil. It has to be to get the certs, that is just a plain truth. Sorry if it offends everybody. There just isn't that much you can do to oil to make it better than others, what you gonna do-- use smarter dinosaurs...Marketing is marketing, and oil is pretty much the same. Now I do realize synthetic oil is much much better. One of the things that makes it better is that it lasts longer. So why not help the enviroment and change it less often.

And Fram oild filters suck?!?! where the hell did that come from. I just think that is a hateful statement based on personal bias and can't be supported at all with facts. I think its like batteries... 5 companies make batteries and put 20 different names on it.
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Originally Posted by 06KR
The ford syn-blend is very good oil and the motorcraft filters are some of the best on the market (this has been proven in several filter tests) I change my oil every 4000 miles and our trucks do not turn high RPMS, so for me there is no reason for full syn. I recently switched from mobil 1 oil filters in my vette to bosch, because the mobil 1's scored very low in an anti drain back test. I do use mobil one oil in the vette, but it see's 7500 RPM often.
Now that makes sense to me. But on the Vette, how long before changes. Do you extend the period since it is syn oil? I was just wondering.
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A few years ago I decided to compare oil filters so I tried several brands and after removing them I cut the can off to see what was inside. Sorry Fram folks, they were terrible. Motorcraft filters were far superior in construction. Target filters looked to be made by Motorcraft. Purolator were top shelf as well. I use Valvoline 5-20 dino and have for over 35 years with 0 problems. I think regular oil changes are far more important than oil brand.

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I think regular oil changes are far more important than oil brand.
I think regular interval changes are more improtant too. I am sure that people that go to the quiklube places that use ?cheap? bulk oil aren't suffering motor failures due to oil. I think this is why I like dino oil at 5K 'cause if you spend more time around and under your vehicle, you are more likely to catch the problems. And who really knows what oil is put in their car when they go to those places. I am not knocking those places, just I wonder how many people that go to those places can swear as to what is actually in their vehicle.

As I said with the API and ASE and ASPCA... all oil is pretty much the same.
That said... I always use Castrol, just 'cause I always have.

I would only go to syn if I would dare do the extended mileage interval.

How many people use syn and do a change once a year?
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Originally Posted by wesbilly
I think regular interval changes are more improtant too. I am sure that people that go to the quiklube places that use ?cheap? bulk oil aren't suffering motor failures due to oil. I think this is why I like dino oil at 5K 'cause if you spend more time around and under your vehicle, you are more likely to catch the problems. And who really knows what oil is put in their car when they go to those places. I am not knocking those places, just I wonder how many people that go to those places can swear as to what is actually in their vehicle.

As I said with the API and ASE and ASPCA... all oil is pretty much the same.
That said... I always use Castrol, just 'cause I always have.

I would only go to syn if I would dare do the extended mileage interval.

How many people use syn and do a change once a year?
i change the oil every six months in my car..I dont drive it as much, use Mobil1 5W-30 and a motorcraft filter. i do it every 3,000 on my truck since its under warranty and I get $20 coupons from my dealership. That being said, Mercedes issues 15,000 mile oil changes, almost all of their motors require Mobil1 0W-40 and the filters use a fleece media..Then again, those crazy krauts use very good oils. The TUV mandates and regulates everything car related and sets very high standards. If you can find German manufactured Castrol, snag it, its good ****.

Also, Chevron Delvac Diesel spec oil is dirt cheap and will last forever, you are right, most all oils are of excellent quality, its the filter that is the lynch pin.
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Originally Posted by wesbilly

And Fram oild filters suck?!?! where the hell did that come from. I just think that is a hateful statement based on personal bias and can't be supported at all with facts. I think its like batteries... 5 companies make batteries and put 20 different names on it.
Actually I think what NGM has merit. I have seen the frams cut open and compared to other filters and the construction is inferior. By what I have seen I choose not to use frams simply due to their cheap construction....I dont know for sure if they filter less effectively but judging by how they are built I would rather not risk it.

How come it seems like you are trying to argue with everyone and prove everyone wrong on here? its a forum for discussion not to talk down to people...give it a rest
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I get mine done at the Ford dealer and use Motorcraft syn blend and Motorcraft filter. No problems so far.
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just how many engine failures are oil related?

Toyota has the black death problem, but is that oil related or is it something with the "oil sump" or drain holes?

I think we should all change to syn and go 15K and tell the oil companies to shove it.

But that said, I could probably never convince myself to go all year without popping the bottom off the oil pan...
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Originally Posted by wesbilly
just how many engine failures are oil related?

Toyota has the black death problem, but is that oil related or is it something with the "oil sump" or drain holes?

I think we should all change to syn and go 15K and tell the oil companies to shove it.

But that said, I could probably never convince myself to go all year without popping the bottom off the oil pan...
I have never heard about an engine failure being directly related to inferior oil, most of the time its due to carelessness of the owner in oil change frequency. And in some cases due to lubricating system breakdowns, pump etc... Im sure if/when engine failure may be due to the actual oil, im sure it would be hard to tell because of all the different variables that have to do with the lubricating system...But then again Im no professional


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