under drive pulley kit..... worth it???
#21
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Sure sounds like your trying to pick a fight. And if you would have read, I corrected my statement about the mpg. Maybe you should read more than you talk, jack.
#22
I don't know I already think that my AC is not nearly as nice as it was with my e-fan car I really notice the diminished cooling at a stop. I do have a black truck and I am sure that has an impact. I am a little troubled by the just raise the idle speed thought. My thought on that is that you will be using more fuel when stopped with the brake on you will be working the trans harder while stopped. you might negate some of the fuel savings... just see how much more brake you use to hold the truck at 900 rpm. just some more things to think about. I wonder if the e-fans are enough of a fuel savings...
#23
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..I can understand the mechanical advantage of the change in pully sizes.
The more I think about the "less efficient" claim relating to electrical charging, AC, etc, the less I believe that. I don't know about everyone else, but I spend very little of my driving at idle anyway. Engines are constantly changing RPM (and pully/belt speeds) as we drive, and all the systems manage to work just fine. About the only issue that might make me a little nervous would be the water pump/fan at idle issue if I got stuck in traffic sometime. An electric fan conversion should take care of that.
The more I think about the "less efficient" claim relating to electrical charging, AC, etc, the less I believe that. I don't know about everyone else, but I spend very little of my driving at idle anyway. Engines are constantly changing RPM (and pully/belt speeds) as we drive, and all the systems manage to work just fine. About the only issue that might make me a little nervous would be the water pump/fan at idle issue if I got stuck in traffic sometime. An electric fan conversion should take care of that.
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I don't know I already think that my AC is not nearly as nice as it was with my e-fan car I really notice the diminished cooling at a stop. I do have a black truck and I am sure that has an impact. I am a little troubled by the just raise the idle speed thought. My thought on that is that you will be using more fuel when stopped with the brake on you will be working the trans harder while stopped. you might negate some of the fuel savings... just see how much more brake you use to hold the truck at 900 rpm. just some more things to think about. I wonder if the e-fans are enough of a fuel savings...
#25
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dont be mad because i posted correct info and made you look like a moron. your a jackass yourself because instead of realizing that you were wrong you instead are trying to fuel a fight. this is why i dont come on this forum much anymore, because morons like you are all over it as of late. its a shame, seeing as i am one of like 3 guys on here with a ton of 4.6 knowledge. now i am going to ignore you and quit feeding your retard fire.
#26
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dont be mad because i posted correct info and made you look like a moron. your a jackass yourself because instead of realizing that you were wrong you instead are trying to fuel a fight. this is why i dont come on this forum much anymore, because morons like you are all over it as of late. its a shame, seeing as i am one of like 3 guys on here with a ton of 4.6 knowledge. now i am going to ignore you and quit feeding your retard fire.
"one of like 3 guys one here w/ a ton of 4.6 knowledge" dude, get over yourself. There are more than 3 ppl that are 4.6 knowledgable on this forum. This is why you should prolly just stay off the forum like you have been.
#27
I would like to feel the difference in e-fans and UDP. Not sure I want to go throught the effort as I know I would use more fuel. SIMPLY BECAUSE OF THE WAY I WOULD BE DRIVING IT!!!! THe 4.6 might me a totally different story I have NOT driven one in a truck, therefore no comment.
Cold idle being X and you raise it by Y would the cold idle then be X+Y? I like the e-fan idea over the UDP I wonder if in combination the e-fans strain the charging system.
#28
Carpe Diem
My best advice I can give to the 4.6 crowd is to goto www.corral.net and check out the 4.6 sohc forum. The model year 01-04 mustang motors are identical to ours for the most part, with the exception of etc and intake design. what works for them, works for us as far as bolt ons. I also recommend buying mustang marketed parts as they are cheaper and dual purpose applications for the 4.6.
Here is a good budget friendly kit for your truck...
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-329703-W/
#29
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blackbetty i think we need more people like you on here that know more specifics about certain things than just people with broad knowledge. i also think that if we have lost a lot of the more mature members and knowledgable members and because of that the morons come out more since they arent put in line by the people with more knowledge and seniority/been here longer. if people **** you off whatever you got seniority tell em to **** off. i love your build thread btw. lots of good info and some good ideas for people. as to the op. i did e fans without underdrive pullys and it made a difference. i even just took 2 electric fans out of some foreign car that was about the same size as my radiator and put em in for 30 bucks. i run between 190 and 200 in summer. in winter here i never even turn my fans on which helps her heat up faster and it runs at 190
#30
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blackbetty i think we need more people like you on here that know more specifics about certain things than just people with broad knowledge. i also think that if we have lost a lot of the more mature members and knowledgable members and because of that the morons come out more since they arent put in line by the people with more knowledge and seniority/been here longer. if people **** you off whatever you got seniority tell em to **** off. i love your build thread btw. lots of good info and some good ideas for people. as to the op. i did e fans without underdrive pullys and it made a difference. i even just took 2 electric fans out of some foreign car that was about the same size as my radiator and put em in for 30 bucks. i run between 190 and 200 in summer. in winter here i never even turn my fans on which helps her heat up faster and it runs at 190
No matter where you go morons will follow, if he wants to flame, go flame, im sure the 2k plus quality post i have will show who knows what...in addition to a 20 plus page build up.
I did my whole efan setup for about 200. and its not hard at all. i went with all new parts and name brand stuff just because i had the cash at the time.
The gt500 question i cant touch because 5.4's are foreign to me, with the 3 valve and such, its a different animal. thats one of the reasons i got a 2v 4.6 in the first place.
The 3k comment was a high ball, at prob 2600 they will break loose, however, i do have a nice set of upgrades on all corners so that may help to.
Anyways, i am trying to get back into the forum here but its just dumb posters that make it like screw this place and make me stay at my local forum, and no one wins like that.