VanoFord

Listen... This is a debate forum, not a elemantary school lunch hour to call ppl names. GROW UP! Sorry you got your feelings hurt for someone talking down about superchargers but the fact is THEY SUCK! The gas 3/4 & 1 Tons don't have turbo's because they dont gaurantee the towing power a diesel will do. No one has takin the time to figure out HOW to turbo a gas truck so why start. its a cheaper priced truck FOR THAT REASON. Rousch and Saleen are CRAP! How are you gonna back up companies that only will add 400HP to the truck package?? 3 bolt on kits for the cars, but they only set up for trucks they have is for the 5.4L and its ONE KIT THATS IT?? Be a real man, do some math, and figure out your own turbo package set up. TurboByGarrett DOT com has all the formulas you need. AND as far as you wanting to race your Stang against my truck, you are a fool. You get on me for comparing 3/4 & 1 ton gas trucks but you are comparing Power:Weight Ratio on a car Vs a truck? I bet you have a bolt on, dummy kit on your stang cuz you're sound too STUPID to put in something of your own design.

Point is... grow some ***** guys and do the math. Put a turbo on your trucks and show all these SC's bitches what REAL power is.

And for the record, GT3788R!

Brattonr

This is NOT a debate forum. Its an enthusiast forum for people who love F150's.

I never called you names. But if you are insecure so be it. Usually people who come off like you and then come out swinging at people who point you out get defensive like you. When I was in elementary school it wasn't this cheesy crap they have today. You took your licks and dished them out. I doubt you would have made it, because you OBVIOUSLY never learned any people skills.

The point is that there are NO factory gas 3/4 or 1 tons with turbos. Or, if there are, they are very few and far between. Now if you want to talk turbo diesels that's another thing. But I doubt you'll be breaking any land speed records with that.

As far as hurting my feelings... haha whatever! I just hate it when people act like their opinion is the only correct one on earth. Like you. As far as your opinion goes... "Rousch and Saleen are CRAP!" says it all about you. The GT500 and KR have SC's too. I guess EVERYONE is stupid to you.

As far as this drivel:

"AND as far as you wanting to race your Stang against my truck, you are a fool. You get on me for comparing 3/4 & 1 ton gas trucks but you are comparing Power:Weight Ratio on a car Vs a truck? I bet you have a bolt on, dummy kit on your stang cuz you're sound too STUPID to put in something of your own design."

My Stang is bone stock. TYVM I just think that empty cans rattle the most. (that means I think your head is empty and you are beating your chest to make you feel more like a man) I'd race your truck in my wife's Ford Five Hundred. Hell, I'd race your 'turbo" truck in my mom's mini-van. If your turbo is so super duper, I guess you wouldn't have a problem beating either of my other cars...

"And for the record, GT3788R!" --- Yup, it's a turbo DIESEL "dummy kit" (for GM products) because you are probably to stupid to come up with something on your own. Oh yeah, and for the record: You couldn't add 400 more horsepower to a bone stock 5.4 F150 engine. You would need to beef up the rotating assembly and work the tranny. Did you think about that math?

Brattonr

To the OP since this thread became a flame fest. Here is a good link with (I think) some honest answers that fit for our trucks. Since we are not talking about a small 4 banger/v6 engine with twin turbos in a race car.

http://www.superchargersonline.com/content.asp?ID=19

If you want bang for your buck, and reliability with your truck go with the SC. If you add full exhaust, electric fans, cai, sc, and a tune I think you would be plenty satisfied and have a dependable truck.

Good luck with your modding. Throw up some pics and info when you are done. I'd be interested in how things turn out for you.

Hysteric

Both technologies have evolved enough so that if either one were to be installed, there wouldn't be much (if any) cooling issue.

Small turbo = quick boost, not too much power
Big turbo = lots of lag, lots of power
Supercharger = power based on pulley size, virtually no lag

Some cars/trucks employ a twin turbo design where you would have a small turbo spool up fast and force boost into the big turbo to reduce lag and still make the big power, but that is big bucks.

VanoFord

Talk is cheap on the internet. Pony up your address and get all your cars tuned. I'll make a vacation out of comin to race your cars. and for the record, I never said i was adding 400 horses to a bone stock engine. Maybe you should read clearer before you talk **** of things you know not. Stock engines/trannies can handle 6-7 lbs of boost with no mods, leaving you with about 400hp/450 ft/lb torque. Anything more than those numbers and yes, the heads and tranny need rebuilding.

And just because Rousch/Saleen can make 2 cars w/ ***** doesnt mean they are gods only gift to HP on vehicles. Be original and DO SOME MATH!

Brattonr

Wow, you made three intelligent points and used three complete, accurate sentences! Had to sort the garbage to get the them, but my work is done here! Only thing is it would be the rotating assembly (e.g. the bottom end not necessarily the heads) that needed work.

So 400hp (easily attainable with an SC) is the goal? Why not go with the easier, more reliable, bolt on SC solution that works better with our type of vehicle? And with less heat. Do the math! It just makes sense for a stock 4.6/5.4 TRUCK with 3.31/3.73 (or whatever gearing) and stock tranny/rotating assembly.

Rousch and Saleen have been winning races for years. I'd take their opinion over yours any day. We can add Shelby and Ford to that list that know more than you too.

As for your challenge... I doubt it. You seem like the kind of person that would show up at my door and shoot my kids. Kinda unstable. I'd meet you at the midnight drags though. Nice and legal with lots of witnesses (and time-slips) for the outcome.

BTW, last post on this thread. My wife just made a good point. "Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." And I hate to lose.