trouble with oil change
03-02-2008, 07:27 PM
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From what I understand, if there is a problem with the engine, they would have to prove it was due to the non-stock oil filter in order for that to void the warranty...it's the same with any mods.
03-03-2008, 03:35 PM
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your correct but its one less hassel and the oil filter is supposedly got a relief valve in the filter but who knows
03-04-2008, 12:07 AM
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There is a thing called American Petroleum Institute ratings that motor oils pass. If an motor oil gets the API certification it has passed testing. In addition to API testing. Most automobile manufactures have testing certifications that are equal or more difficult to obtain. Since Supertech and other brand name oils meet these certifications they do not cause sludge. If someone comments that after 2,000 miles such and such oil caused this. They are full of crap. All of these brand name oil's perform pretty much the same in 99 percent of passenger car engines when the proper maintenance is performed on the cars. There are many resources that will help you find out about this on the web just google
Not to be rude, but to the poster of this topic, please do yourself a favor and disregard the opinion of this person. First of all, all conventional oil has a wax substance called paraffin in it. This material tends to cling to metal when the engine is off. Not running an engine frequently enough and for long enough intervals with regular oil will cause sludge. Additionally, sludge occurs when the additives in regular oil have been depleted as they are what keeps the sludge from staying on the metal to begin with. That said, all companies use different additives and some have better formulas than others. My guess it that Walmart oil, since walmart sucks and sells mainly broken crap, is probably not equipped with the additives that one who is concerned about their car would want.
Synthetic oil is all high-grade, packed with additives, and is paraffin-free.
I am an electrical engineer by education and a project engineer in the oil and natural gas industry. I am **** retentive about maintaining my belongings that I work hard to afford. After a great deal of trial and error testing with different oils, I strongly recommend Mobil 1, Mobil 1 Extended Performance, and Quaker State Q. I use 5W-20 Mobil 1 Extended Performance in my 2006 5.4L FX4, with Motorcraft oil filters. I use the same in my boat with a 350 Mercruiser I/O. In my cars with 4 and 6 cylinders I use 0W-30 Mobil 1 when 10W-30 is called for, and Motorcraft filters when possible, regardless of car make. In V8s, which I only buy to drive hard, I use any of Mobil's racing oils.
I actually sawed the top Fram filter that fits our trucks in half and also a Motorcraft filter. The build quality in the Motorcraft is far superior to a Fram that costs twice as much. Also, the Motorcraft filters for my wife's V6 Sebring are twice the size of Frams. In fact they look identical to the FL820S that goes in my 5.4L, other than the gasket. They are very good filters, and made in the USA.
FINALLY, MY POINT: I started with Motorcraft oil in my truck and was not pleased with an increasing amount of valvetrain noise as the mileage piled up on this oil(above 2000 miles). I tried other brands of semi-synthetic 5W-20 oils and found the same results. After switching to Mobil 1 EP 5W-20, I NEVER hear the engine itself from inside the cab, only the exhaust. That fact alone tells me, using common sense, that the engine is happier with Mobil 1. Do what you want, but I suggest synthetic with a Motorcraft filter.
03-04-2008, 12:51 AM
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Only Mobil 1 fully synthetic for my truck and my bike that I sold a while back. And I've always been a believer in no matter what it is use the manufacturers oil filter. Just my 2 cents, that's all it's worth.
03-04-2008, 12:58 AM
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After a great deal of trial and error testing with different oils, I strongly recommend Mobil 1, Mobil 1 Extended Performance, and Quaker State Q. I use 5W-20 Mobil 1 Extended Performance in my 2006 5.4L FX4, with Motorcraft oil filters. I use the same in my boat with a 350 Mercruiser I/O. In my cars with 4 and 6 cylinders I use 0W-30 Mobil 1 when 10W-30 is called for, and Motorcraft filters when possible, regardless of car make. In V8s, which I only buy to drive hard, I use any of Mobil's racing oils.
I actually sawed the top Fram filter that fits our trucks in half and also a Motorcraft filter. The build quality in the Motorcraft is far superior to a Fram that costs twice as much. Also, the Motorcraft filters for my wife's V6 Sebring are twice the size of Frams. In fact they look identical to the FL820S that goes in my 5.4L, other than the gasket. They are very good filters, and made in the USA.
FINALLY, MY POINT: I started with Motorcraft oil in my truck and was not pleased with an increasing amount of valvetrain noise as the mileage piled up on this oil(above 2000 miles). I tried other brands of semi-synthetic 5W-20 oils and found the same results. After switching to Mobil 1 EP 5W-20, I NEVER hear the engine itself from inside the cab, only the exhaust. That fact alone tells me, using common sense, that the engine is happier with Mobil 1. Do what you want, but I suggest synthetic with a Motorcraft filter.
I actually sawed the top Fram filter that fits our trucks in half and also a Motorcraft filter. The build quality in the Motorcraft is far superior to a Fram that costs twice as much. Also, the Motorcraft filters for my wife's V6 Sebring are twice the size of Frams. In fact they look identical to the FL820S that goes in my 5.4L, other than the gasket. They are very good filters, and made in the USA.
FINALLY, MY POINT: I started with Motorcraft oil in my truck and was not pleased with an increasing amount of valvetrain noise as the mileage piled up on this oil(above 2000 miles). I tried other brands of semi-synthetic 5W-20 oils and found the same results. After switching to Mobil 1 EP 5W-20, I NEVER hear the engine itself from inside the cab, only the exhaust. That fact alone tells me, using common sense, that the engine is happier with Mobil 1. Do what you want, but I suggest synthetic with a Motorcraft filter.
i agree with everything you said espically the bold parts that i picked out, i guess electrical guru's think alike....?
03-04-2008, 07:55 AM
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I am predjudiced against Quaker Sludge.. I am sure they have waaayy increased quality, but I still will not use it. The same with Pennzoil. Both oils known to sludge up. I understand that the synthetics will not unless totally abused. I will stick to the Mobil 1.
Robotaz, that was a very well worded post thanks.
Robotaz, that was a very well worded post thanks.