TooLoud
03-18-2009, 06:46 PM
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If you can hear your stock cooling fan then there are 2 things wrong...
1) You still haven't done the electric fan mod
2) Your radio volume is too low, turn that **** up a little.
1) You still haven't done the electric fan mod
2) Your radio volume is too low, turn that **** up a little.
03-18-2009, 11:04 PM
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Toyota Yaris are pretty quiet. If you think your truck is too loud, why did you buy it??? These are things one would check when they go for a test drive ?? Maybe I am just a dumb redneck kid
03-18-2009, 11:30 PM
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some people assume answers - How many miles on the truck.
I know the year and engine so lets be clear here.
1. was the exhaust stock before you added the muffler and glass pack?
A. Was it quiter new.
B. did the glass pack make it louder?
C. Did you try and add a larger more baffled muffler w/a resonator (not a glasspack)
2. what type noise is it that you hear?
3.Is the noise possible fan?
4. is the intake stock?
Do you know adding more back pressure may effect the engine
5. is there any kind of an exhaust leak ? Manifold , header, exhaust pipe?
I know the year and engine so lets be clear here.
1. was the exhaust stock before you added the muffler and glass pack?
A. Was it quiter new.
B. did the glass pack make it louder?
C. Did you try and add a larger more baffled muffler w/a resonator (not a glasspack)
2. what type noise is it that you hear?
3.Is the noise possible fan?
4. is the intake stock?
Do you know adding more back pressure may effect the engine
5. is there any kind of an exhaust leak ? Manifold , header, exhaust pipe?
03-19-2009, 07:08 AM
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some people assume answers - How many miles on the truck.
I know the year and engine so lets be clear here.
1. was the exhaust stock before you added the muffler and glass pack?
A. Was it quiter new.
B. did the glass pack make it louder?
C. Did you try and add a larger more baffled muffler w/a resonator (not a glasspack)
2. what type noise is it that you hear?
3.Is the noise possible fan?
4. is the intake stock?
Do you know adding more back pressure may effect the engine
5. is there any kind of an exhaust leak ? Manifold , header, exhaust pipe?
I know the year and engine so lets be clear here.
1. was the exhaust stock before you added the muffler and glass pack?
A. Was it quiter new.
B. did the glass pack make it louder?
C. Did you try and add a larger more baffled muffler w/a resonator (not a glasspack)
2. what type noise is it that you hear?
3.Is the noise possible fan?
4. is the intake stock?
Do you know adding more back pressure may effect the engine
5. is there any kind of an exhaust leak ? Manifold , header, exhaust pipe?
In any event, he has not responded since. Makes me think this was a joke, and we are the suckers.
In any event, I'll discontinue checking up on this post; since the original poster has not responded, he/she is not concerned too much about the problem, otherwise they would have responded with answers by now. There are other threads to watch.
Last edited by Mod (Ret.); 03-19-2009 at 07:10 AM.
03-21-2009, 09:13 AM
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03-22-2009, 10:29 PM
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Too loud
Larry,
"Thanks for your response. I do not have computer at home so I can't check very often on the responses.
I did buy the truck new. I didn't test drive one before I bought it because the dealership did not have one. The big rush to buy, on my part at the time, was to get it before the $7,000 rebate deal ended. They were getting snapped up quickly in the last few days of that offer in late November, 2008.
The dealership service department said there was nothing they could do about the loudness and didn't even have ANY idea what was causing the loudness of the engine and of the exhaust. No clue whatsoever. Three different service techs recommended going to a local muffler shop to see if they could do something about the loud exhaust. That person ended up putting an additional Walker muffler between the stock muffler and the catalytic converters. That did not quiet it down very much at all. After talking to Walker about it, a Walker factory tech suggested putting on a resonator at the tail pipe. After getting two inventory stock numbers from the Walker factory rep, the local exhaust shop showed me the design of it and of (in essence) a glasspack. There was virtually no difference in design. So, I had the shop put it on. There if virtually no difference and it did not, in my opinion, resonate anything.
When I try to determine what causes the noise, I would say that the main cause of noise is in the engine. I don't believe it is the fan. There is no leak in the exhaust system. The block may be the same, but the heads are completely different with three valves per cylinder (I believe) and a different intake manifold than that in my '97. The cold air induction system is also markedly different. This total redesign gives me markedly superior acceleration and power but at a cost of having to hear the engine roar every time I depress the accelerator. It follows that because of the engine design, the exhaust flowthrough and "noise' is louder as well.
Believe me, I feel stupid that I didn't get a test drive in this. Not one salesperson ever said that this 2008 model is so superior to the '97 model for this list of reasons including: power, acceleration, blah, blah, blah.
The regional service manager took a test drive in it on Thursday and said this is typical of the new design. It is just a new animal and that is all there is to it.
I feel my only solution is to put additional sound deadening in the engine bay. Hushmat and Dynamat offer those products. I cannot change the cold air induction system without voiding the warranty other than to put one in from K&N. However that will be even louder than stock since they are minimizing obstructions to increase air flow. I could also soundproof the bottom and back of the cab to minimize noise from the exhaust.
Again, I do not have a computer at my home and therefore could not regularly check the thread.
I appreciate your sincere questions and not going off like others with comments about "welding it shut" and "greasing the engine bearings".
Oh, by the way, yes I did think about creating too much back pressure by installing an additional muffler. Since the acoustics are not appreciably improved, I will probably cut it out and put it back to stock.
Unless you feel it is a mistake or counterproductive, feel free to post this on the thread so people can see the chain of events and dispel some of the thoughts surrounding the negative comments."
Thank you.
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Well - Too Loud,
It sounds like the truck is making a normal noise. As per Ford service dept. or reginal rep.
My 2008 is the 5.4 I didn't even drive the new 4.6 three valve. I am the opposit of you! I want to hear my truck. ck all my mods in my profile.
So let me think for a moment ... Hmm!
Check to make sure there is no loose or open grommet on the fire wall!
Loose brackets for the Ac, alt, fan shroud, intake tubing, etc. one of these can be loose on a new vehicle. Just ck!
If the noise comes from the engine and not the exhaust put the exhaust back to stock. if the exhaust is part of the problem do a cat back system with a more baffled muffler with a real resonator not a glass pack and DO NOT enlarge the pipe 2" or 2 1/2" not 3" pipe
Note: most exhaust shop are tuned into louder exhaust
To quiet your truck down as far as inside the cabin may be a lot of work. Add insulation Firewall and floor you will need to remove seats and carpet
Under the hood you could add more insulation but my truck has a good insulation for the hood already.
Somebody suggested electric fans - I agree with that choice
Take a stethoscope designed for finding noise in a car and try to narrow down where the most noise is coming from. My Stethoscope has a vacuum hose coming of the end with a removable stem. Both will help for various types of noises
Again if this is a normal eng noise ???? All my suggestions are trial and error and take time and money
Larry
P.S.
After 30 years with Volvo. I now own a Corp. that builds custom computer systems and sets up networks Etc. So I can help with - no Computer at home.
"Thanks for your response. I do not have computer at home so I can't check very often on the responses.
I did buy the truck new. I didn't test drive one before I bought it because the dealership did not have one. The big rush to buy, on my part at the time, was to get it before the $7,000 rebate deal ended. They were getting snapped up quickly in the last few days of that offer in late November, 2008.
The dealership service department said there was nothing they could do about the loudness and didn't even have ANY idea what was causing the loudness of the engine and of the exhaust. No clue whatsoever. Three different service techs recommended going to a local muffler shop to see if they could do something about the loud exhaust. That person ended up putting an additional Walker muffler between the stock muffler and the catalytic converters. That did not quiet it down very much at all. After talking to Walker about it, a Walker factory tech suggested putting on a resonator at the tail pipe. After getting two inventory stock numbers from the Walker factory rep, the local exhaust shop showed me the design of it and of (in essence) a glasspack. There was virtually no difference in design. So, I had the shop put it on. There if virtually no difference and it did not, in my opinion, resonate anything.
When I try to determine what causes the noise, I would say that the main cause of noise is in the engine. I don't believe it is the fan. There is no leak in the exhaust system. The block may be the same, but the heads are completely different with three valves per cylinder (I believe) and a different intake manifold than that in my '97. The cold air induction system is also markedly different. This total redesign gives me markedly superior acceleration and power but at a cost of having to hear the engine roar every time I depress the accelerator. It follows that because of the engine design, the exhaust flowthrough and "noise' is louder as well.
Believe me, I feel stupid that I didn't get a test drive in this. Not one salesperson ever said that this 2008 model is so superior to the '97 model for this list of reasons including: power, acceleration, blah, blah, blah.
The regional service manager took a test drive in it on Thursday and said this is typical of the new design. It is just a new animal and that is all there is to it.
I feel my only solution is to put additional sound deadening in the engine bay. Hushmat and Dynamat offer those products. I cannot change the cold air induction system without voiding the warranty other than to put one in from K&N. However that will be even louder than stock since they are minimizing obstructions to increase air flow. I could also soundproof the bottom and back of the cab to minimize noise from the exhaust.
Again, I do not have a computer at my home and therefore could not regularly check the thread.
I appreciate your sincere questions and not going off like others with comments about "welding it shut" and "greasing the engine bearings".
Oh, by the way, yes I did think about creating too much back pressure by installing an additional muffler. Since the acoustics are not appreciably improved, I will probably cut it out and put it back to stock.
Unless you feel it is a mistake or counterproductive, feel free to post this on the thread so people can see the chain of events and dispel some of the thoughts surrounding the negative comments."
Thank you.
+
Well - Too Loud,
It sounds like the truck is making a normal noise. As per Ford service dept. or reginal rep.
My 2008 is the 5.4 I didn't even drive the new 4.6 three valve. I am the opposit of you! I want to hear my truck. ck all my mods in my profile.
So let me think for a moment ... Hmm!
Check to make sure there is no loose or open grommet on the fire wall!
Loose brackets for the Ac, alt, fan shroud, intake tubing, etc. one of these can be loose on a new vehicle. Just ck!
If the noise comes from the engine and not the exhaust put the exhaust back to stock. if the exhaust is part of the problem do a cat back system with a more baffled muffler with a real resonator not a glass pack and DO NOT enlarge the pipe 2" or 2 1/2" not 3" pipe
Note: most exhaust shop are tuned into louder exhaust
To quiet your truck down as far as inside the cabin may be a lot of work. Add insulation Firewall and floor you will need to remove seats and carpet
Under the hood you could add more insulation but my truck has a good insulation for the hood already.
Somebody suggested electric fans - I agree with that choice
Take a stethoscope designed for finding noise in a car and try to narrow down where the most noise is coming from. My Stethoscope has a vacuum hose coming of the end with a removable stem. Both will help for various types of noises
Again if this is a normal eng noise ???? All my suggestions are trial and error and take time and money
Larry
P.S.
After 30 years with Volvo. I now own a Corp. that builds custom computer systems and sets up networks Etc. So I can help with - no Computer at home.
03-23-2009, 07:03 AM
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Moderator (Ret.)
Lessen learned: test drive before you buy. I still don't understand why the buyer did not test drive THE TRUCK HE BOUGHT THOUGH. The buyer claimed there was no truck to test drive when he bought. Well, the truck was delivered. Why didn't he drive the one he took home that day BEFORE signing the final paperwork? Also, all contracts have a 72 hour period where the buyer can opt out; the noise had to be heard on the way home that day.
Mistake (unfortunatly) by the buyer. Problem for Ford though is that this buyer is unhappy, and will not give good opinions to others, and even though Ford is not at fault, they both loose.