Sudden Unintended Acceleration
#21
Junior Member
Thread Starter
MGD, thanks for the reply.
I read that Ford had added the brake overflow system in 2010 for the American market but they added it years before in their European market. Do you know why?
I read that Ford had added the brake overflow system in 2010 for the American market but they added it years before in their European market. Do you know why?
#22
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http://www.autoblog.com/2009/12/08/c...-acceleration/
Check the link, specifically mentions the F150.
Check the link, specifically mentions the F150.
#23
No I don't, but I suspect it's in response to recent historical events regarding this phenomenon in North america.
Not sure if it's already (or going to be) mandated legislatively. So - basic CYA foresight. Lesson learned from the Toyota debacle, perhaps?
Your issue is disconcerting - this system normally throws trouble codes if you even look at it funny. With a code, you'd have this nailed. As it is, the maintenance described in a previous post is about all you can do at this point.
good luck
MGD
#24
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Damn app is on the fritz again..
Patti, the USA and Europe have varying regulations. The more stringent regulations are developed here in the states.
The issue you describe is likely being misrepresented by your classification, unless of course the truck has literally gotten away from you and nearly caused a fatal accident. If this is the case then continue to pursue your action. There could in fact be an issue with your truck alone, and it you need to be able to prove its not a defect due to lack of PROPER maintenance, and then prove it IS a defect due to inconsistent manufacturing practices. Handing your truck over to another person or dealership is not considered a proper maintenance event..
The throttle body, TPS sensor, accelerator pedal, floor mats, and wiring harnesses should all be replaced and completely scrutinized by a ford engineer, and a privately contracted engineering firm for any underlying defects in manufacturing or assembly. With these actions taken, you might have more evidence to prove the plausibility of your scenario.
If you are absolutely convinced that you are a victim of sudden unintended acceleration, then you are the one who will need to provide the burden of proof. Chiming in with a similar complaint on an open case is not enough to invoke any action. If this scenario has happened to many other people, its likely the repair actions taken that I stated above will be documented somewhere with any law firm that is handling the case.
I personally have never had or heard of this issue with the drive by wire system Ford utilizes. I don't want to mock you for your complaint, and if you are telling the truth then I absolutely think you need to contact a lawyer, and an engineering firm, then combine your case later should your team actually produce proper evidence...
Good luck. I think it goes with out saying, but this endeavor will not be cheap. The expense will be worth it however to save lives. You will likely be reimbursed and credited generously in a settlement should everything work out in your favor.
Hope this helps..
Damn app is on the fritz again..
Patti, the USA and Europe have varying regulations. The more stringent regulations are developed here in the states.
The issue you describe is likely being misrepresented by your classification, unless of course the truck has literally gotten away from you and nearly caused a fatal accident. If this is the case then continue to pursue your action. There could in fact be an issue with your truck alone, and it you need to be able to prove its not a defect due to lack of PROPER maintenance, and then prove it IS a defect due to inconsistent manufacturing practices. Handing your truck over to another person or dealership is not considered a proper maintenance event..
The throttle body, TPS sensor, accelerator pedal, floor mats, and wiring harnesses should all be replaced and completely scrutinized by a ford engineer, and a privately contracted engineering firm for any underlying defects in manufacturing or assembly. With these actions taken, you might have more evidence to prove the plausibility of your scenario.
If you are absolutely convinced that you are a victim of sudden unintended acceleration, then you are the one who will need to provide the burden of proof. Chiming in with a similar complaint on an open case is not enough to invoke any action. If this scenario has happened to many other people, its likely the repair actions taken that I stated above will be documented somewhere with any law firm that is handling the case.
I personally have never had or heard of this issue with the drive by wire system Ford utilizes. I don't want to mock you for your complaint, and if you are telling the truth then I absolutely think you need to contact a lawyer, and an engineering firm, then combine your case later should your team actually produce proper evidence...
Good luck. I think it goes with out saying, but this endeavor will not be cheap. The expense will be worth it however to save lives. You will likely be reimbursed and credited generously in a settlement should everything work out in your favor.
Hope this helps..
Last edited by Especial86; 04-28-2014 at 10:07 AM.
#25
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Thread Starter
Please note that I keep posting brake overflow system but it should be brake "override" system...smart brake is how some car companies advertise it.
Ford added smart brake sensors by the brake and gas pedal in their European market years ago because the German car makers made the decision to do so very early on for good PR. Ford did it sooner there than in the American market just to stay competitive with their European competitors. They added it here in 2010 after Toyota lost their case.
Ford added smart brake sensors by the brake and gas pedal in their European market years ago because the German car makers made the decision to do so very early on for good PR. Ford did it sooner there than in the American market just to stay competitive with their European competitors. They added it here in 2010 after Toyota lost their case.
#29
I'm absolutely no legal expert... I maybe at best have a layman's understanding of law... but I'm not sure we could fairly and adequately determine whether this is a wide spread issue from the existence of these cases. they seem relatively small in both the damages ($5m over lawyers and 115 plaintiffs) they are seeking and the number of plaintiffs (100 people in the West Virgina one and 15 in the other) this also seems to have almost no media coverage... given the range of build dates, the toyota one, and now the GM stuff, it seems like this would be big news. none of this means there isn't a SUA issue and none of it speaks to how wide spread of an issue this is or could be, but to me it seems more like lawyers trying to make money by asking for an amount small enough that ford might just settle out of court. I mean no disrespect and I'm not addressing this towards any of your personal experiences.
#30
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http://m.prnewswire.com/news-release...232406921.html.
I imagine it was a very good win for the defendant, Ford Motor Co., when the judge ruled out the folks who bought used vehicles.
There is a pdf file (136 pgs) of the court documents. I stumbled upon it while searching SUA. The civil action number is 3:13-cv-6529
I imagine it was a very good win for the defendant, Ford Motor Co., when the judge ruled out the folks who bought used vehicles.
There is a pdf file (136 pgs) of the court documents. I stumbled upon it while searching SUA. The civil action number is 3:13-cv-6529