Remote start question
11-16-2014, 11:08 PM
#21
Senior Member
Got me then. My guess was when you got the new keys it wiped the memory which would have had the bypass in it. Doing that process should have relearned the bypass as another key. You have to do it fairly quickly.
11-16-2014, 11:20 PM
#22
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Hmmm maybe I wasn't going fast enough! I'll try again in the morning i just got off of a 13 hour shift ao i wasnt going to spend a ton of time on it and my bed was calling my name. Haha I was just trying to avoid the dealership at all costs if I coukd! I do appreciate the advice though!
11-17-2014, 08:05 AM
#23
Senior Member
haha exactly why I asked if the passlock light was flashing like mad. This tells us that it's definitely not reading your bypass module for some reason if the securlok light is flashing like crazy. Chris.c gave you the programming sequence for the bypass which would have re-learned it to the computer. Basically what you're doing is programming a third key to the computer which is what you have to do when you install a remote start unit on our trucks as the bypass module is essentially, a key... (not on all vehicles though). What's VERY possible is the bypass module is locked up now (it doesn't happen often but it does happen). *IF* that's the case, sometimes the easiest way to get around that is disconnect the negative of your battery for like 10 seconds then hook it back up. The other option is you look under the dash for it and disconnect it for a few seconds but that's sometimes more difficult.
The basic Fortin bypass modules for our trucks are a simple positive, negative, then wires to the key cylinder. The remote start module is supposed to power it with a ground while running wire or similar when remote start is activated. I've seen installers permanently wire these on (bypassing your chipped key security altogether - very bad). iDatalink and others make bypass modules that take a positive, negative, tie to the ODB II, then have an input to trigger them. I've found the software locks up on them.
If the programming sequence doesn't work, I would try disconnecting the battery if you're not worried about losing your presets, then see if it helps.
The basic Fortin bypass modules for our trucks are a simple positive, negative, then wires to the key cylinder. The remote start module is supposed to power it with a ground while running wire or similar when remote start is activated. I've seen installers permanently wire these on (bypassing your chipped key security altogether - very bad). iDatalink and others make bypass modules that take a positive, negative, tie to the ODB II, then have an input to trigger them. I've found the software locks up on them.
If the programming sequence doesn't work, I would try disconnecting the battery if you're not worried about losing your presets, then see if it helps.
11-17-2014, 09:00 AM
#24
Senior Member
Thread Starter
haha exactly why I asked if the passlock light was flashing like mad. This tells us that it's definitely not reading your bypass module for some reason if the securlok light is flashing like crazy. Chris.c gave you the programming sequence for the bypass which would have re-learned it to the computer. Basically what you're doing is programming a third key to the computer which is what you have to do when you install a remote start unit on our trucks as the bypass module is essentially, a key... (not on all vehicles though). What's VERY possible is the bypass module is locked up now (it doesn't happen often but it does happen). *IF* that's the case, sometimes the easiest way to get around that is disconnect the negative of your battery for like 10 seconds then hook it back up. The other option is you look under the dash for it and disconnect it for a few seconds but that's sometimes more difficult.
The basic Fortin bypass modules for our trucks are a simple positive, negative, then wires to the key cylinder. The remote start module is supposed to power it with a ground while running wire or similar when remote start is activated. I've seen installers permanently wire these on (bypassing your chipped key security altogether - very bad). iDatalink and others make bypass modules that take a positive, negative, tie to the ODB II, then have an input to trigger them. I've found the software locks up on them.
If the programming sequence doesn't work, I would try disconnecting the battery if you're not worried about losing your presets, then see if it helps.
The basic Fortin bypass modules for our trucks are a simple positive, negative, then wires to the key cylinder. The remote start module is supposed to power it with a ground while running wire or similar when remote start is activated. I've seen installers permanently wire these on (bypassing your chipped key security altogether - very bad). iDatalink and others make bypass modules that take a positive, negative, tie to the ODB II, then have an input to trigger them. I've found the software locks up on them.
If the programming sequence doesn't work, I would try disconnecting the battery if you're not worried about losing your presets, then see if it helps.
Also when I unhook the battery and reconnect the negative terminal, am I going to run through the programming sequence that Chris.c gave me again?
Thanks again guys I do appreciate the help
11-17-2014, 10:51 PM
#25
Senior Member
Alright. Thanks for that information! If it is locked up am I just SOL then as far as the remote start goes?
Also when I unhook the battery and reconnect the negative terminal, am I going to run through the programming sequence that Chris.c gave me again?
Thanks again guys I do appreciate the help
Also when I unhook the battery and reconnect the negative terminal, am I going to run through the programming sequence that Chris.c gave me again?
Thanks again guys I do appreciate the help
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11-17-2014, 11:29 PM
#26
Senior Member
i had one in my 2012 f150 and i remember i messed up a couple times on the start and it locked the system but according to my buddy at the dealer after either 1 hour or 2 hours the system should reset allowing you to reset i just remember my truck started honking and wouldnt start. not sure if that helps or not
11-19-2014, 08:04 PM
#27
Senior Member
Thread Starter
No, I think something else happened in the process. The programming sequence should stay in memory (although I had a Ford Escape lose it once) so you should be able to just hook the battery back up and ideally the bypass should work. I also thought maybe you put it into valet mode by cycling the key too many times but it's difficult to say. If you disconnect the battery then plug it back in, try to remote start it. If that doesn't work, try Chris.c's recommendation on the programming... If that doesn't work, try cycling the key off then on five times and see if you hear a click or anything then try remote starting. Hopefully that makes sense
?Hmm mm alright guys. I had some time to play around with the truck today. And none of that worked lol I did however, get it started by putting my key against the ignition cylinder and activated the remote start. I remember doing this another time when I was having a problem with it and forgot to mention it, sorry guys! It only started it once using this method and I was unable to get it to start again. So at least I know it's working but I'm thinking it has something to do with the antennae around the cylinder.
11-20-2014, 10:45 AM
#28
Senior Member
Yep, so you've just confirmed further that your bypass module isn't reading for some reason. If you put the key in the ignition (don't turn key to on), then try remote starting and it works, it's the chipped bypass. If it's sometimes not working, your bypass might be working but it's not programmed to the computer. In that case, you need to follow Chris.c's instructions again:
- Grab both keys
- Insert the first key, turn it to on for at least ONE second, then off
- Remove the key and within ten seconds, insert the second on and turn the ignition on for at least ONE second, then off, remove key
- Activate remote start right away
Try programming it again, it may work. Otherwise you may have to pull your bypass module out. They're not too difficult to find... my bypass on my ford fusion did fail (it won't transmit to the antenna).
- Grab both keys
- Insert the first key, turn it to on for at least ONE second, then off
- Remove the key and within ten seconds, insert the second on and turn the ignition on for at least ONE second, then off, remove key
- Activate remote start right away
Try programming it again, it may work. Otherwise you may have to pull your bypass module out. They're not too difficult to find... my bypass on my ford fusion did fail (it won't transmit to the antenna).
11-22-2014, 11:01 PM
#29
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Yep, so you've just confirmed further that your bypass module isn't reading for some reason. If you put the key in the ignition (don't turn key to on), then try remote starting and it works, it's the chipped bypass. If it's sometimes not working, your bypass might be working but it's not programmed to the computer. In that case, you need to follow Chris.c's instructions again:
- Grab both keys
- Insert the first key, turn it to on for at least ONE second, then off
- Remove the key and within ten seconds, insert the second on and turn the ignition on for at least ONE second, then off, remove key
- Activate remote start right away
Try programming it again, it may work. Otherwise you may have to pull your bypass module out. They're not too difficult to find... my bypass on my ford fusion did fail (it won't transmit to the antenna).
- Grab both keys
- Insert the first key, turn it to on for at least ONE second, then off
- Remove the key and within ten seconds, insert the second on and turn the ignition on for at least ONE second, then off, remove key
- Activate remote start right away
Try programming it again, it may work. Otherwise you may have to pull your bypass module out. They're not too difficult to find... my bypass on my ford fusion did fail (it won't transmit to the antenna).
11-23-2014, 12:15 PM
#30
Senior Member
That's great news!!!!!! Very happy to hear.