new F-150 quit after mud puddle
#22
Hell no i would man up and pay for it,lol.I was just stateing that how did my truck make it thru the mud pits i have been thru,and the deep water up to my lower windshield and still runs like a champ.No problem at all with mine.if mine can make it thru that,it leads me to belive his truck had other problems that he did not about and he might just infact purchased a lemon truck.
#24
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ok lets compare it like this, since a truck is a lot higher off the ground than a car then it's engine and damagable parts are higher off of the ground. so this truck breaking in a 6in. puddle is like the equivilant of a low car breaking in a 1 or 2in. puddle which you typically run through all of the time when it's raining on a road. would you not think the warranty would cover that?
bottom line, he said he was on a road, although be it a dirt road, he wasn't off-roading. plus the manual tells you how to go through water.
just my opinion, don't take it personally Atom cause i know you help out a lot of these sites, f150forum and f150online where i first saw you.
#25
similar or not...they both took a risk, correct? the OP had to pay, ranger didn't. i have no problem helping guys out, but when they screwed themselves and the ford tech sent in the paperwork already, just pay it and learn from it..could have the coil been sealed improperly front the maker, sure it could have been...
scenario...he did the same thing and hydrolocked the motor, now is that poor design? or welcome to the joys of playing with water? or the result of water being forced into the intake tube from going 30mph? regardless of how this pans out, he was on a flooded road playing, truck broke because he was playing....why should ford pay? exactly, they won't because they don't cover offroading, now can the dealer jockey the claim around maybe....unsure if you know this, but they have to take pics and usually send in the faulty electronic parts
scenario...he did the same thing and hydrolocked the motor, now is that poor design? or welcome to the joys of playing with water? or the result of water being forced into the intake tube from going 30mph? regardless of how this pans out, he was on a flooded road playing, truck broke because he was playing....why should ford pay? exactly, they won't because they don't cover offroading, now can the dealer jockey the claim around maybe....unsure if you know this, but they have to take pics and usually send in the faulty electronic parts
Last edited by ATOM; 07-03-2009 at 03:27 PM.
#26
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He has a "6 months old 2008 F-150 FX4" and I am sure it has on the XF4 sticker that is on the side of the truck and has Off Road right under the FX4.
This is saying the truck is designed for off road use. If he is using his truck on a way that is advertised by the manufacture and something happens to it mechanically it should be covered. I fully understand if he hit a large rock or something and damaged the truck but a little water splashing up under the hood shouldn't damage anything on a 4X4.
Now if we where talking about a little 2 wheel drive car that wasn't designed to go off road and he did the same thing I would say he was an idiot but we are talking bout a 4X4 truck that Sayers off road on it's side from the factory.
As for the American way it goes for the company (ford) as well. We pay for the warranty it is built in the price of the truck when we buy it and or we buy the extended warranty. The company makes money if the warranty isn't ever used and they loose money if the clime is a big one so every time they deny a clame it is money in there pocket.
They use the warranty as a selling point and make us think we are covered in the event of something happening so How can you blame someone for wanting what they pay for?
This is saying the truck is designed for off road use. If he is using his truck on a way that is advertised by the manufacture and something happens to it mechanically it should be covered. I fully understand if he hit a large rock or something and damaged the truck but a little water splashing up under the hood shouldn't damage anything on a 4X4.
Now if we where talking about a little 2 wheel drive car that wasn't designed to go off road and he did the same thing I would say he was an idiot but we are talking bout a 4X4 truck that Sayers off road on it's side from the factory.
As for the American way it goes for the company (ford) as well. We pay for the warranty it is built in the price of the truck when we buy it and or we buy the extended warranty. The company makes money if the warranty isn't ever used and they loose money if the clime is a big one so every time they deny a clame it is money in there pocket.
They use the warranty as a selling point and make us think we are covered in the event of something happening so How can you blame someone for wanting what they pay for?
Last edited by rickyp; 07-03-2009 at 05:48 PM.
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OK, I was going to avoid this one and NOT be CONFRONTATIONAL.....
but lately I can't seem to keep my BIG TRAP SHUT!
I AGREE with ATOM......it seems I've been agreeing with him most of the time, we're usually on the SAME PAGE!
Having said that, look at what the FORD MANUAL sez in the previous post about the DEPTH of the water AND the SPEED of the vehicle......
to me it's just COMMON SENSE!
I don't drive thru ANY puddle if I think it's deep enough to reach the TOP of the block OR the vent tube for the transmission, or even close!
Does ANYBODY think that ANY vehicle will operate in water JUST below the BREATHER (with electronics & computer under water) OR with the transmission totally submerged including the vent tube ????
If you think that, you need a DEUCENHALF (ARMY TRUCK), NOT a FORD OR CHEVY OR DODGE.
I'm sorry, if I did this it would be because I made that choice, I'm responsible for it and would NOT even THINK about FORD fixing my truck.
And I know it was ONLY 6" BUT it was the speed that caused the problem!
Ya gotta PAY to PLAY!
but lately I can't seem to keep my BIG TRAP SHUT!
I AGREE with ATOM......it seems I've been agreeing with him most of the time, we're usually on the SAME PAGE!
Having said that, look at what the FORD MANUAL sez in the previous post about the DEPTH of the water AND the SPEED of the vehicle......
to me it's just COMMON SENSE!
I don't drive thru ANY puddle if I think it's deep enough to reach the TOP of the block OR the vent tube for the transmission, or even close!
Does ANYBODY think that ANY vehicle will operate in water JUST below the BREATHER (with electronics & computer under water) OR with the transmission totally submerged including the vent tube ????
If you think that, you need a DEUCENHALF (ARMY TRUCK), NOT a FORD OR CHEVY OR DODGE.
I'm sorry, if I did this it would be because I made that choice, I'm responsible for it and would NOT even THINK about FORD fixing my truck.
And I know it was ONLY 6" BUT it was the speed that caused the problem!
Ya gotta PAY to PLAY!
#28
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We are talking about a pudde of standing water not a wide and deep stream. No matter how fast he is going how can enough water be splashed up into the engine to cause this big of an issue. Most of the water should have ben deflected by the skid plates and skirts go along side the wheel wells.
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We are talking about a pudde of standing water not a wide and deep stream. No matter how fast he is going how can enough water be splashed up into the engine to cause this big of an issue. Most of the water should have ben deflected by the skid plates and skirts go along side the wheel wells.
I just don't understand any other scenario.
#30
OK, I was going to avoid this one and NOT be CONFRONTATIONAL.....
but lately I can't seem to keep my BIG TRAP SHUT!
I AGREE with ATOM......it seems I've been agreeing with him most of the time, we're usually on the SAME PAGE!
Having said that, look at what the FORD MANUAL sez in the previous post about the DEPTH of the water AND the SPEED of the vehicle......
to me it's just COMMON SENSE!
I don't drive thru ANY puddle if I think it's deep enough to reach the TOP of the block OR the vent tube for the transmission, or even close!
Does ANYBODY think that ANY vehicle will operate in water JUST below the BREATHER (with electronics & computer under water) OR with the transmission totally submerged including the vent tube ????
If you think that, you need a DEUCENHALF (ARMY TRUCK), NOT a FORD OR CHEVY OR DODGE.
I'm sorry, if I did this it would be because I made that choice, I'm responsible for it and would NOT even THINK about FORD fixing my truck.
And I know it was ONLY 6" BUT it was the speed that caused the problem!
Ya gotta PAY to PLAY!
but lately I can't seem to keep my BIG TRAP SHUT!
I AGREE with ATOM......it seems I've been agreeing with him most of the time, we're usually on the SAME PAGE!
Having said that, look at what the FORD MANUAL sez in the previous post about the DEPTH of the water AND the SPEED of the vehicle......
to me it's just COMMON SENSE!
I don't drive thru ANY puddle if I think it's deep enough to reach the TOP of the block OR the vent tube for the transmission, or even close!
Does ANYBODY think that ANY vehicle will operate in water JUST below the BREATHER (with electronics & computer under water) OR with the transmission totally submerged including the vent tube ????
If you think that, you need a DEUCENHALF (ARMY TRUCK), NOT a FORD OR CHEVY OR DODGE.
I'm sorry, if I did this it would be because I made that choice, I'm responsible for it and would NOT even THINK about FORD fixing my truck.
And I know it was ONLY 6" BUT it was the speed that caused the problem!
Ya gotta PAY to PLAY!
Now yes since i am playing and it would have stalled i would have payed..Just leads me to think he got a lemon truck