Lockers
02-08-2009, 02:26 PM
#11
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I'm 99% sure you can't put a no-slip locker in your truck. The no-slip locker goes into your existing case, and you have an FX-4. That's already a limited slip differential. They only install into "open" differential cases.
You'll have to go to a detroit locker if you want a full locker.
You'll have to go to a detroit locker if you want a full locker.
02-08-2009, 09:40 PM
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I'm 99% sure you can't put a no-slip locker in your truck. The no-slip locker goes into your existing case, and you have an FX-4. That's already a limited slip differential. They only install into "open" differential cases.
You'll have to go to a detroit locker if you want a full locker.
You'll have to go to a detroit locker if you want a full locker.
02-08-2009, 11:47 PM
#13
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No, i don't believe so. The only 2 options I know of are to replace the whole carrier, or install a lock-rite or no slip in an open diff carrier. I'm not sure why, but any application I've ever seen for those has said "open diffs only".
A guy I know that does gear and diff swaps says that if you really want a bulletproof locker and plan on running large tires, and driving off road regularly, to stay away from the lock-rite type lockers because they aren't nearly as strong as the detroit locker, even though they function exactly the same. I guess they put alot of excess strain on the factory carrier that it wasn't meant to handle, where the Detroit is much beefier. After looking at the detroit I put in (in my F350), and comparing it to the stock carrier, I tend to believe that.
A guy I know that does gear and diff swaps says that if you really want a bulletproof locker and plan on running large tires, and driving off road regularly, to stay away from the lock-rite type lockers because they aren't nearly as strong as the detroit locker, even though they function exactly the same. I guess they put alot of excess strain on the factory carrier that it wasn't meant to handle, where the Detroit is much beefier. After looking at the detroit I put in (in my F350), and comparing it to the stock carrier, I tend to believe that.
02-08-2009, 11:51 PM
#14
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I Think I confused you. The True Trac "IS" the carrier. The carrier is the unit that has the ring gear bolted to it. When you install a detroit locker, limited slip, electric locker, ARB, or trutrac, you are removing the whole carrier and replacing it.
When you install a lock-rite or no slip, you just remove the guts (spider gears) from the existing carrier without removing the whole thing from the axle case, and replacing those guts with the lock-rite unit.
Sorry for the confusion
When you install a lock-rite or no slip, you just remove the guts (spider gears) from the existing carrier without removing the whole thing from the axle case, and replacing those guts with the lock-rite unit.
Sorry for the confusion
02-09-2009, 12:04 AM
#15
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I Think I confused you. The True Trac "IS" the carrier. The carrier is the unit that has the ring gear bolted to it. When you install a detroit locker, limited slip, electric locker, ARB, or trutrac, you are removing the whole carrier and replacing it.
When you install a lock-rite or no slip, you just remove the guts (spider gears) from the existing carrier without removing the whole thing from the axle case, and replacing those guts with the lock-rite unit.
Sorry for the confusion
When you install a lock-rite or no slip, you just remove the guts (spider gears) from the existing carrier without removing the whole thing from the axle case, and replacing those guts with the lock-rite unit.
Sorry for the confusion
Thanks for the clarification. Tomorrow, I'll call and get some installation quotes, hopefully they are too ridiculous.
02-10-2009, 01:57 AM
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I'm 99% sure you can't put a no-slip locker in your truck. The no-slip locker goes into your existing case, and you have an FX-4. That's already a limited slip differential. They only install into "open" differential cases.
You'll have to go to a detroit locker if you want a full locker.
You'll have to go to a detroit locker if you want a full locker.
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02-10-2009, 02:11 AM
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I'm 99% sure you can't put a no-slip locker in your truck. The no-slip locker goes into your existing case, and you have an FX-4. That's already a limited slip differential. They only install into "open" differential cases.
You'll have to go to a detroit locker if you want a full locker.
You'll have to go to a detroit locker if you want a full locker.
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02-10-2009, 08:06 AM
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That's why I said "99%" sure!!! I wasn't aware that could be used in a limited slip case. Definitely check into it. BUT remember, these aren't meant for big tires, and heavy off road use. Thay are only as strong as your factory carrier.
No noticeable difference in the tire wear "IF", (and this is a big if) you drive like you have a locker. Let off the gas going into turns, and GENTLY apply power through the turn. If you have a heavy foot, like me, you will see additional tire wear. A good way to think of it is, if you go through a turn in a way that normally would've spun or "chirped" your inner tire with an open differential, your locker will lock, and you will drag a tire through that turn, causing additional wear.
I wasn't aware that could be used in a limited slip case. Definitely check into it. BUT remember, these aren't meant for big tires, and heavy off road use. Thay are only as strong as your factory carrier.No noticeable difference in the tire wear "IF", (and this is a big if) you drive like you have a locker. Let off the gas going into turns, and GENTLY apply power through the turn. If you have a heavy foot, like me, you will see additional tire wear. A good way to think of it is, if you go through a turn in a way that normally would've spun or "chirped" your inner tire with an open differential, your locker will lock, and you will drag a tire through that turn, causing additional wear.
02-10-2009, 08:12 AM
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On straight roads, you won't even know you have a locker. It WILL allow wheel differentiation. It will stay locked on the straight road, (you won't realize it). Any curves in the road, onramps, offramps, and it will unlock. No problem.. I think too many people are scared of lockers. The newer ones are "soft-lockers." They don't bang and clang like they used to. They are awesome.
02-11-2009, 05:21 AM
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That's why I said "99%" sure!!! I wasn't aware that could be used in a limited slip case. Definitely check into it. BUT remember, these aren't meant for big tires, and heavy off road use. Thay are only as strong as your factory carrier.
No noticeable difference in the tire wear "IF", (and this is a big if) you drive like you have a locker. Let off the gas going into turns, and GENTLY apply power through the turn. If you have a heavy foot, like me, you will see additional tire wear. A good way to think of it is, if you go through a turn in a way that normally would've spun or "chirped" your inner tire with an open differential, your locker will lock, and you will drag a tire through that turn, causing additional wear.
I wasn't aware that could be used in a limited slip case. Definitely check into it. BUT remember, these aren't meant for big tires, and heavy off road use. Thay are only as strong as your factory carrier.No noticeable difference in the tire wear "IF", (and this is a big if) you drive like you have a locker. Let off the gas going into turns, and GENTLY apply power through the turn. If you have a heavy foot, like me, you will see additional tire wear. A good way to think of it is, if you go through a turn in a way that normally would've spun or "chirped" your inner tire with an open differential, your locker will lock, and you will drag a tire through that turn, causing additional wear.
