Hydrogen Generator
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Like previously stated, I personally don't think it's worth it. You might get better performance or whatever but looking at it from a chemistry point of view, it requires a decent amount of energy to cause this process to occur and Hydrogen is highly volatile. And some might say "well gas is highly flammable/volatile", then ok here's what you do, set a can of gasoline on fire and then start a can of hydrogen gas on fire, see which one ignites more rapidly and reacts more intensely. Another good thing about hydrogen is that when it burns, it burns clear so you can't even see it. (obviously don't try this, just making a point) but as far as performance wise, it is better, obviously, or they wouldn't use hydrogen to power the space shuttle and other rockets. However, adding a very minimal amount to a gas engine won't be worth it. If you wanna try go ahead but let me know if you're ever in Houston so I can be sure and stay away from your truck just incase it goes boom.
#23
Look at it this way, from what I understand they have successfully done a veggie oil conversations to diesels. It's documented and works. You get a good deal on the crap you may save money and your helping the environment.
This hydrogen stuff doesn't seam to common of a gig so it's probably as valid as one of the magnets you put on your fuel system to save gas...... If you really wanna see if it will work call up myth busters and present them with your research and they will spend somebody's money to either bust it or call it plausible .
Either way good luck, if it gets on myth busters let us know the date I would love to watch it!
This hydrogen stuff doesn't seam to common of a gig so it's probably as valid as one of the magnets you put on your fuel system to save gas...... If you really wanna see if it will work call up myth busters and present them with your research and they will spend somebody's money to either bust it or call it plausible .
Either way good luck, if it gets on myth busters let us know the date I would love to watch it!
#24
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Mythbusters did one where they tested different methods for increasing fuel efficiency. Hydrongen worked for a little while but started combusting at the wrong time. Hydrogen also burns much hotter than gas. BUSTED
Anyone that thinks this will work should nut up and do it. Take lots of pictures of the aftermath.
Anyone that thinks this will work should nut up and do it. Take lots of pictures of the aftermath.
#26
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...I'm not at all hellbent on the idea, just curious. I'm waiting for my coworker to get started on his project and I'll likely watch/help on HIS truck. This guy builds street/drag race cars as a hobby and is an excellent mechanic. The only reason I took an interest in this subject is because he is emphatic that it works.
As far as the alternator issue goes, my understanding is that alternators are at full speed/potential all the time. As long as the amperage draw doesn't exceed the output there shouldn't be an issue regarding mileage or wear.
Doing homework/research on wiki-doofis... there are better ways of getting to the truth, like Mythbusters! My original post was for some first hand knowledge. I wouldn't ask if I was already convinced it worked.
Sidebar; a friend of mine with a diesel won't believe he could save money by using self processed bio-diesel. He's convinced the law will nail him for not using taxed fuel on the road...like if he was putting ORD in it. I keep telling him his biggest issue would be raccoons trying to get at the "fried chicken" in the fuel tank.
As far as the alternator issue goes, my understanding is that alternators are at full speed/potential all the time. As long as the amperage draw doesn't exceed the output there shouldn't be an issue regarding mileage or wear.
Doing homework/research on wiki-doofis... there are better ways of getting to the truth, like Mythbusters! My original post was for some first hand knowledge. I wouldn't ask if I was already convinced it worked.
Sidebar; a friend of mine with a diesel won't believe he could save money by using self processed bio-diesel. He's convinced the law will nail him for not using taxed fuel on the road...like if he was putting ORD in it. I keep telling him his biggest issue would be raccoons trying to get at the "fried chicken" in the fuel tank.
#27
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If something so simple worked then it would be in production and the people selling it wouldn't need phony testimonies.
You only read one part of the article.
It works for torches and the like. Just because its combustible doesn't mean it will work in your truck.
Not to mention you're letting unmetered air into your intake behind the maf where the computer can't account for it. Then even if it was burning your o2 sensors didn't know it was there in the first place and it could throw off you a/f ratio.
Your friend might be a good mechanic but he also sounds like he's very gullible.
You only read one part of the article.
It works for torches and the like. Just because its combustible doesn't mean it will work in your truck.
Not to mention you're letting unmetered air into your intake behind the maf where the computer can't account for it. Then even if it was burning your o2 sensors didn't know it was there in the first place and it could throw off you a/f ratio.
Your friend might be a good mechanic but he also sounds like he's very gullible.
#28
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60DRB. As for bio diesel you are correct. Now I have heard some diesels that have had issues with the bio diesel (the fuel pump go out pre-maturely). But I guess that is if you use pure oil and burn it like diesel instead of processing it like real chemical diesel. As for the tax thing. The only laws governing that, that I am aware of. Get This. CA, in CA it is unlawful to sell biodiesel that is more than X percent biodiesel 10 or 15 I think. You would think all those tree huggers would actually requre the sale of 100% biodiesel in X% of your stations for any chain stations in the state of CA but who knows with the cereal state.
#29
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I think around here you only get into trouble if you are driving a commercial/industrial vehicle like a dump truck or front end loader as the fuel has to be a certain color. If they don't have that color fuel in their tanks when the state inspectors check its a pretty big fine.
The diesel we use at my plant it red. But im pretty sure the diesel I put in my dads 2006 f250 when he had it was blue or purple. That was 5 years ago though.
The diesel we use at my plant it red. But im pretty sure the diesel I put in my dads 2006 f250 when he had it was blue or purple. That was 5 years ago though.
#30
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AR is green and red. Green is normal and taxed. Red is tax exempt for farm implments and construction implements. Now farm pickup trucks are NOT exempt from the green. A farmer I worked for found that out the hard way.