PJB

I was just talking to my great uncle tonight and apparently he rigged up a hydrogen setup on his '95 Chevy van to improve gas mileage. He's visiting from New Mexico/Arizona or wherever he lives now and didnt have the van here (took a train) so I couldnt look at it.

I also know a guy that did it on a beat up '92 Escort wagon but that guy is a nut so I didnt really give it much though.

Justin251

Ford, honda, chevy, toyota, and the rest are wasting millions and millions of dollars on r&d for hybrid cars and some idiots with mountain dew bottles and extra wires from the battery just put them to shame.

LOLOLOL

Mod (Ret.)

Isn't your co-worker sharing his information with you?

Mod (Ret.)

Everytime we go through gas shortages and gas price increases, these types of fuel miser kits and ideas surface. They quickly die away, as no one ever comes up with an actual kit and proof that they work.

Or a story comes out that one of the three big auto manufactuers bought out their idea and put it away in a file cabinet.

I remember many of these same things that came out in the 70's when there was a big gas shortage (I was a teenager then; paying $00.38 a gallon, which was horrific back then).

planehunter

I saved so much money on gas that I was able to buy 10,000 shares of the London Bridge for my upcomming retirement on the moon ranch I bought.

Redneckmafia

Here is a company that makes the hydrogen generators.I have seen the installs on a H1 Hummer and a Ford F250 that has a Cummins in it...They swear by the systems... http://www.fuelgeniesystems.com/

Justin251

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oxyhydrogen

Y'all need to read up. Its fraud.

Rhyder

"The most common and decisive counter-argument against producing this gas on-board to use as a fuel or fuel additive is that the energy required to split water molecules exceeds the energy recouped by burning it"

Thats the main counter argument? I wouldnt be using it because it uses less energy than straight gas, I could care less. If I was looking for an alternate power source for my house I would care, not to use less of the costly gas at the pump.

I realize more drain on my current generated from the altenator decreases my milage to some degree, but is it more than I recoup from the hydrogen?

I would use it if, by using it, I used less gas to run my car the same distance as without it, saving me money. So WIKI, doesnt specificly state it doesnt work, the question is, does it work enough to make it cost efficent?

That being said, nothing I see other than the comments by the people selling these devices or build instructions, understandably they would swear by their product, leads me to believe it is worth it. I would not add one to my vehicle myself at this time.

60DRB

...Why I'm asking for actual first hand knowledge...
-Many companies ARE sinking millions of $$ into hydrogen energy research (is that why GM and Chrysler went bankrupt?!)
- My co-worker says it did work on his vehicles- he built his own generators and said he's building new ones soon, using better materials than he used before. He got his info online. I have looked at the info online but am still on the fence...
- Plenty of people say programers are crap too, but that isn't true.

dhonnoll

60DRB. Sounds like you are pretty hell bent on making it work. I'm just saying get ready for a let down. They don't produce that much HHO. IF you were to add another battery and charge it all night or use a solar pannel (and NOT connect it to your alternator) you might have a slight (very slight) improvement and not sacrifice your alternator. But if you STILL dont believe it will use more gas to spin that alternator to run that elecrolizer. Do this, hook your battery up to a very dead battery and listen to the difference in idle as you throw a load in it. Thats pretty close to what you will be doing all the time for a small amount of HHO. But hey knock yourself out. But be realistic and scientific about it.