Edge programmer settings
11-07-2011, 04:28 PM
#21
I Like Tires
Well either thats something that Gryphon programmed differently or your truck has had it's gears changed before because it says right in the manual that it knows your stock Gear Ratio based on what your PCM has stored on it.
11-07-2011, 04:33 PM
#22
I Like Tires
However were you to custom tune your Edge with someone like Power Hungry Performance (ie: The Gryphon Tuner) they can adjust far more parameters than you yourself could and can do little things to make the benefits from CAI's and Exhausts even greater.
11-07-2011, 06:11 PM
#23
Uberhater,Troll,Whatever
Must be a PHP thing I suppose. I'm not the original owner but the truck was straight per the VIN when I got it. Interesting.
11-08-2011, 10:24 AM
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Originally Posted by BassAckwards
Okay there are a lot of questions here so give me a moment while I try to touch on all of them.
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I'll start with tire sizes, you'll need to research the size of your tire and reference it to my conversions so you know what to enter into your programmer.
My Tire size is 33.2"
33.2" - 2650mm
34.4" - 2745mm
34.5" - 2753mm
34.6" - 2761mm
34.7" - 2769mm
34.8" - 2777mm
34.9" - 2785mm
35.0" - 2793mm
35.1" - 2801mm
35.2" - 2809mm
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You need to turn down your 1-2 Shift Firmness, because there is a bigger difference in gear ratio between these two gears then any other gears, it is common for it to up and down shift a little harder than the other gears if set at the same firmness. Set it a couple of settings below what it is at now and see if this helps, repeat until desired shift pressure is achieved.
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You need to look up the diameter of your mudgrapplers and reference that to my chart and put in the circumference in mm, that I have pre-converted for you, into your Programmer.
As for gears unless you have had them swapped you don't need to change that in the programmer because it knows what you have stock based on what the PCM had stored in its stock data. So unless you have changed them do not touch this setting.
In my experience with the shifting points however I don't touch these either. I have played with them every which way I know how and it winds up causing lots of up and downshifting while slowing down because you can cause the shift points to overlap and the PCM won't know which is best. I believe the baseline adjustments that the Edge makes are very good and there is no need to change them.
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You don't adjust the gear ratio to correct for different tire sizes with this Programmer. You could but it kinda misses the point.
If you have a different tire size give me the tire size or Diameter here in this thread and I will convert it for you in Circumferential mm.
If you have physically changed the gears in your truck and your tire sizes however than simply type in your new gear ratio into your programmer and the new tire circumference. (Note: Because your PCM does not have your new Gear Ratio Stored as OEM you will have to re-enter your new gear ratio everytime you reprogram much like you have to re-enter your new tire size.)
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I have found that 11 is even a little too high for 1st gear so I set mine at about 9-10 (Your results may vary based on many factors but should be pretty close to the same).
However, 12 on all the other gears should be perfectly fine.
Shift Firmness affects WOT and Regular Driving both.
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Okay now onto the OP's Question:
Here is what I put for Daily Driving for a little performance but looking for better overall MPG. I get 16 city with my current setup using this tune.
Level: 2 Towing
87 Octane Fuel
WOT Shift Points:
1-2: 5200 RPM
2-3: 5200 RPM
3-4: 5000 RPM
Conv. Lock Points:
1st Gear Lock: No Change
2nd Gear Lock: No Change
3rd Gear Lock: -5
4th Gear Lock: -10
1st Gear Unlock: No Change
2nd Gear Unlock: No Change
3rd Gear Unlock: No Change
4th Gear Unlock: No Change
Shift Firmness:
1-2: 10
2-3: 12
3-4: 12
Rev Limiter:
5350 RPM
(Note: Needs to be at least 150 RPM above your maximum WOT Shift Point or you may experience erratic shifting).
Speed Limiter:
93mph
(Purely preference, my tires are only good to 99 so this is what I have my speed limiter set at, this will not effect performance or economy).
Gear Ratio:
I have stock Gears so no change here.
Tire Size:
2650mm
(My tires are 33.2" tall)
Timing:
+0.5°
(This is fine for 87 octane fuel as long as its good fuel not some cheap, never heard of brand. I'm talkin Shell, Exxon, Chevron, and Valero are all good).
WOT Fuel:
1.35
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Since Performance will probably be the next question here is my performance tune. All my mods you can see in my sig.
Level: 3 Performance
93 Octane Fuel ONLY
WOT Shift Points:
1-2: 5350 RPM
2-3: 52350 RPM
3-4: 5000 RPM
Conv. Lock Points:
1st Gear Lock: No Change
2nd Gear Lock: No Change
3rd Gear Lock: -5
4th Gear Lock: -10
1st Gear Unlock: No Change
2nd Gear Unlock: No Change
3rd Gear Unlock: No Change
4th Gear Unlock: No Change
Shift Firmness:
1-2: 10
2-3: 15
3-4: 15
Rev Limiter:
5500 RPM
(Note: Needs to be at least 150 RPM above your maximum WOT Shift Point or you may experience erratic shifting).
Speed Limiter:
93mph
(Purely preference, my tires are only good to 99 so this is what I have my speed limiter set at, this will not effect performance or economy).
Gear Ratio:
I have stock Gears so no change here.
Tire Size:
2650mm
(My tires are 33.2" tall)
Timing:
+2.0°
WOT Fuel:
1.65
---------------------------------------------------------
I'll start with tire sizes, you'll need to research the size of your tire and reference it to my conversions so you know what to enter into your programmer.
My Tire size is 33.2"
33.2" - 2650mm
34.4" - 2745mm
34.5" - 2753mm
34.6" - 2761mm
34.7" - 2769mm
34.8" - 2777mm
34.9" - 2785mm
35.0" - 2793mm
35.1" - 2801mm
35.2" - 2809mm
---------------------------------------------------------
You need to turn down your 1-2 Shift Firmness, because there is a bigger difference in gear ratio between these two gears then any other gears, it is common for it to up and down shift a little harder than the other gears if set at the same firmness. Set it a couple of settings below what it is at now and see if this helps, repeat until desired shift pressure is achieved.
---------------------------------------------------------
You need to look up the diameter of your mudgrapplers and reference that to my chart and put in the circumference in mm, that I have pre-converted for you, into your Programmer.
As for gears unless you have had them swapped you don't need to change that in the programmer because it knows what you have stock based on what the PCM had stored in its stock data. So unless you have changed them do not touch this setting.
In my experience with the shifting points however I don't touch these either. I have played with them every which way I know how and it winds up causing lots of up and downshifting while slowing down because you can cause the shift points to overlap and the PCM won't know which is best. I believe the baseline adjustments that the Edge makes are very good and there is no need to change them.
---------------------------------------------------------
You don't adjust the gear ratio to correct for different tire sizes with this Programmer. You could but it kinda misses the point.
If you have a different tire size give me the tire size or Diameter here in this thread and I will convert it for you in Circumferential mm.
If you have physically changed the gears in your truck and your tire sizes however than simply type in your new gear ratio into your programmer and the new tire circumference. (Note: Because your PCM does not have your new Gear Ratio Stored as OEM you will have to re-enter your new gear ratio everytime you reprogram much like you have to re-enter your new tire size.)
---------------------------------------------------------
I have found that 11 is even a little too high for 1st gear so I set mine at about 9-10 (Your results may vary based on many factors but should be pretty close to the same).
However, 12 on all the other gears should be perfectly fine.
Shift Firmness affects WOT and Regular Driving both.
---------------------------------------------------------
Okay now onto the OP's Question:
Here is what I put for Daily Driving for a little performance but looking for better overall MPG. I get 16 city with my current setup using this tune.
Level: 2 Towing
87 Octane Fuel
WOT Shift Points:
1-2: 5200 RPM
2-3: 5200 RPM
3-4: 5000 RPM
Conv. Lock Points:
1st Gear Lock: No Change
2nd Gear Lock: No Change
3rd Gear Lock: -5
4th Gear Lock: -10
1st Gear Unlock: No Change
2nd Gear Unlock: No Change
3rd Gear Unlock: No Change
4th Gear Unlock: No Change
Shift Firmness:
1-2: 10
2-3: 12
3-4: 12
Rev Limiter:
5350 RPM
(Note: Needs to be at least 150 RPM above your maximum WOT Shift Point or you may experience erratic shifting).
Speed Limiter:
93mph
(Purely preference, my tires are only good to 99 so this is what I have my speed limiter set at, this will not effect performance or economy).
Gear Ratio:
I have stock Gears so no change here.
Tire Size:
2650mm
(My tires are 33.2" tall)
Timing:
+0.5°
(This is fine for 87 octane fuel as long as its good fuel not some cheap, never heard of brand. I'm talkin Shell, Exxon, Chevron, and Valero are all good).
WOT Fuel:
1.35
---------------------------------------------------------
Since Performance will probably be the next question here is my performance tune. All my mods you can see in my sig.
Level: 3 Performance
93 Octane Fuel ONLY
WOT Shift Points:
1-2: 5350 RPM
2-3: 52350 RPM
3-4: 5000 RPM
Conv. Lock Points:
1st Gear Lock: No Change
2nd Gear Lock: No Change
3rd Gear Lock: -5
4th Gear Lock: -10
1st Gear Unlock: No Change
2nd Gear Unlock: No Change
3rd Gear Unlock: No Change
4th Gear Unlock: No Change
Shift Firmness:
1-2: 10
2-3: 15
3-4: 15
Rev Limiter:
5500 RPM
(Note: Needs to be at least 150 RPM above your maximum WOT Shift Point or you may experience erratic shifting).
Speed Limiter:
93mph
(Purely preference, my tires are only good to 99 so this is what I have my speed limiter set at, this will not effect performance or economy).
Gear Ratio:
I have stock Gears so no change here.
Tire Size:
2650mm
(My tires are 33.2" tall)
Timing:
+2.0°
WOT Fuel:
1.65
How does your truck react to the converter locking so soon. I tried it and it bounces from 1100 to 1500 rmps constantly and won't stay around on just keeps going back and forth
11-08-2011, 01:21 PM
#25
I Like Tires
Really? Mine just sits their. It's one of the main reasons I get such great City Mileage. I can lock it at around 35 and just cruise through town between 35-45 averaging 20+mpg on the Instantaneous MPG.
11-08-2011, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by BassAckwards
Really? Mine just sits their. It's one of the main reasons I get such great City Mileage. I can lock it at around 35 and just cruise through town between 35-45 averaging 20+mpg on the Instantaneous MPG.
Ya its as if it is switching back and forth between gears which obviously it isn't but the rmps are all over the place.
11-09-2011, 09:22 AM
#28
Senior Member
Originally Posted by Travise90
Ok my differential tags on my truck say it's 3.55 gears. But my edge says it's 3.73 gears. I've never touched the gears. What would cause this
