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Old 09-27-2010, 06:50 PM   #31
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I would not start adding a lot of timing until your on purely 93. if it was an exact 50/50 mix(which it likely was not) you would be at an average of the 2 basically octane wise.

The Tuner SHOULD be reporting the exact same value as the speedo, both the gauge cluster and the tuner are getting the same data from your PCM for velocity calculations. If your speedo is off, you need to have the stepper motor checked out in the cluster.

As far as playing with timing goes though, you can slowly add some timing and see if you hear pinging or get a knock code. What are the available setting for timing? Let me know and ill cook up some good setting
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Here are all my settings right now.
Transmition/economy and Tow performance program)All are the same as follows
WOT STD shift Conversion lock points Rev limiter
1-2:5000 1-2:0 1:lock 5400
2-3:5000 2-3:0 2:lock
3-4:4900 3-4:0 3:lock Shift Firmness
2-1:0 4:lock 1-2:0
3-2:0 1:unlock 2-3:0
4-3:0 2:unlock 3-4:0
3:unlock Timing WOT Fuel
4:unlock 0.00 1.30
Idle RPM for all 3 settings
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Performance tune-All the same exept for two
Rev limiter WOT Fuel
5600 1.50

Hope all this helps you.I would like to stay in tow performance for most of the time untill spring/summer when i will do allot of the Performance tune.By then tho,i will have custom tunes
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I was talking about your timing settings, iv never owned an automatic so all that means nothing to me haha. Ill have to learn that when I get my truck.
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I was talking about your timing settings, iv never owned an automatic so all that means nothing to me haha. Ill have to learn that when I get my truck.
Well according from the edge evo,all timeing settings are at 0.00

Or are you talking about trucks timeing itself? If so,how the hell do i check that man?lol
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ok, what about the other stuff I mentioned?
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ok, what about the other stuff I mentioned?
I hate to say it, but have you read TSB 06-19-08?
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I did some very mild changes to level 2 when i first put it in, i am thinking about making it more "aggressive" though. this is a screenshot of my excel file. is there a way to upload the actual file, so people can download it and record their own changes?

btw, the factory had my gear ratio off in the computer

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Well according from the edge evo,all timeing settings are at 0.00

Or are you talking about trucks timeing itself? If so,how the hell do i check that man?lol
Yea Im talking about the Evo settings. What are the differentials? Does it give you a low medium high RPM range to change? And does it change the timing in terms of a percent or a physical degree?
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Yea Im talking about the Evo settings. What are the differentials? Does it give you a low medium high RPM range to change? And does it change the timing in terms of a percent or a physical degree?
What do you mean the Differentials? You mean my differential gears?
Will check on after work and will get back to ya.
Changes the timing on a percent.Right now my timing reads on the Evo 0.00%

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What do you mean the Differentials? You mean my differential gears?
Will check on after work and will get back to ya.
Changes the timing on a percent.Right now my timing reads on the Evo 0.00%

Thanks for all your help man.
Im referring to differential in terms of how something is changing(percent vs Degrees). I imagine your limited to about 10-15% total timing increase(every tuner iv seen that uses ∆% for timing is fairly limited). You could likely crank that bad boy all the way up on 91 octane and not have any knock or pinging at all.

But of course test it out, dont just take my word for it.

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On my Mustang (4.6L) I run 24.5* from idle until 3500 RPM, then I retard the timing down to 23.5*, then at 5000RPM the timing is retarded further to 22*.

These 4.6Ls run best between 20-25* total timing, Id imagine its not to much different for the 5.4 3V, but the differences in cams need to be takin into account.
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Im referring to differential in terms of how something is changing(percent vs Degrees). I imagine your limited to about 10-15% total timing increase(every tuner iv seen that uses ∆% for timing is fairly limited). You could likely crank that bad boy all the way up on 91 octane and not have any knock or pinging at all.

But of course test it out, dont just take my word for it.
Ahh ok.Gotcha.Yes the Evo settings for the timing are in Percents.N right now it reads 0.00% for the timing.If that tells you anything?lol.

How much you think i should crank the timing up for my Tow performance?I will not go back to 91octane gas till next year spring time.So for the time being am staying with low gas which is 87octane.

Will tell ya one thing.In the tow performance setting i have noticed better fuel economy.Ona weekly basis i drive to my friends house who is about 2 hours away.Before the tuner i would use just over a quarter tank of gas to get there.Did the drive yesterday,drove the same way i always do,and used just under a quarter tank.Of course all this is cruise control going 68mph.
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