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Old 02-05-2017, 07:52 PM
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Did the newer style heads on the 08+ 5.4's suffer cam phaser problems like the 04 and 05's did?
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Yes, even 2009 and 2010 had phaser problems. The new heads eliminated the plugs getting stuck in them and breaking.
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Echoing Summers' statement. Plug redesign was all the revision did.
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Did Ford ever redesign the cam phasers? Even if you buy a new one today, is it the same part that plaqued the trucks from the factory. I need a 5.4 for a truck I just bought and I'm trying to learn everything I can before I buy a reman, or a used one. I appreciate any and all info
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Yes, at some point the phasers were upgraded, but since even 2010s had issues, nobody has a sure fire answer to the most up to date phasers/part #. They do on VCT solenoids, but not phasers. Someone correct me if I am wrong.
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Default I have not even heard the details of why 08 heads are better

I agree no one should go 50k without changing plugs. But If you have to get reman it would be nice to know all the details of improvements .
New plugs should scrap the TSB on sparkplug changes such as using anti seize .
But cleaning of carbon in cyl around tip never covered except by good people on here. .
Its too bad many people spent so much on those plug problems , every class action suit that I was grouped in came to nothing . I run on that history so I fought my own plug changes after mechanics leaned away from wanting to do it .
I have been in court fighting for fair treatment on injuries and have won against insurance companies but I was forced into it . I did not like it .

These forums can do so much by informing and leading us to mitigate our own damages . There should be a sparkplug sticky with good practices written as a guide as it comes up all the time . The 5.4l is intolerant of anything but a perfect installation of plugs/boots, dielectric grease , spark hole contaminants, torque etc.
A list of part numbers and engine improvements would make another great sticky, heads and why ,throttle bodies,vcts,phasors, fdmn module etc.
It would take someone smarter than me and more experienced. I have never had one of these heads in my hands to see differences in or experiment on . But that would really fall to the engine heads or race type people that tear the engines down all the time .
I have put an insert in and cleaned tip area out but it would have been nice to have one off to experiment on .
Good luck to you guys waiting for your checks , I hope I'm wrong and you get a fair amount . .



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