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Old 03-07-2015, 08:39 PM   #1
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i am waiting for my rancho quick lift kit to come in and i had pondered on since i am there to replace my ball joints 71k
worth doing?

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Well worth changing now.
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mite as well... gotta get an alignment anyway
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I was loozing at moogs for replacement
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I was loozing at moogs for replacement
lol wut?

Moogs are fine - get the Problem Solver line - they have zerks.

Do everything - tierod ends, swaybar end links, etc.

BTW if it weren't fer ye quicklifts, just changing BJ's does not require an alignment - the UCA's have nice round holes - no misalignment possible. The lower BJ is a separate unit, so the LCA never gets removed.

As fer you, likely yer camber and toe will need to be checked - beware that some shops insist on installing camber kits - it's an added expense and not absolutely necessary - just makes it easier for them to do the correction, and is a nice profit centre for them. They go where the LCA mounts on 04-08's.

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lol wut?

Moogs are fine - get the Problem Solver line - they have zerks.

Do everything - tierod ends, swaybar end links, etc.

BTW if it weren't fer ye quicklifts, just changing BJ's does not require an alignment - the UCA's have nice round holes - no misalignment possible. The lower BJ is a separate unit, so the LCA never gets removed.

As fer you, likely yer camber and toe will need to be checked - beware that some shops insist on installing camber kits - it's an added expense and not absolutely necessary - just makes it easier for them to do the correction, and is a nice profit centre for them. They go where the LCA mounts on 04-08's.

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Just pullin' ye finger - no biggie . I apparently knew what you meant.

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If its an 04, I've heard that you must get a whole new control arm.
At least on the uppers... and I believe it after having a shop put in new ball joints upper and lower and they only lasted 25k miles approx.
Replaced upper control arms ball joints included, yesterday
as long as quick struts and sway bar links. Plan to do rear shocks today.

Basically as much trouble with ball joints as I've had on my truck, yes its well worth doing while your in there already.
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If its an 04, I've heard that you must get a whole new control arm.
At least on the uppers... and I believe it after having a shop put in new ball joints upper and lower and they only lasted 25k miles approx.
Replaced upper control arms ball joints included, yesterday
as long as quick struts and sway bar links. Plan to do rear shocks today.

Basically as much trouble with ball joints as I've had on my truck, yes its well worth doing while your in there already.
'04 - '08 are definitely integrated UCA / BJ designs. You can;t get just upper BJ's for these trucks.

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It is pretty common in alot of fords to have uca/ball joints.

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If its an 04, I've heard that you must get a whole new control arm.
At least on the uppers... and I believe it after having a shop put in new ball joints upper and lower and they only lasted 25k miles approx.
Replaced upper control arms ball joints included, yesterday
as long as quick struts and sway bar links. Plan to do rear shocks today.

Basically as much trouble with ball joints as I've had on my truck, yes its well worth doing while your in there already.
What brand are you buying that they only last 25k?
or how much stress are you putting on them to fail as per snow plow,etc...?
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What brand are you buying that they only last 25k?
or how much stress are you putting on them to fail as per snow plow,etc...?
I could see burning thru them at 25,000 with a three inch leveling kit.my o.e. uppers were toast at 50,000 with a 2.5 inch level. If I ever did it again I would stick with a 2 inch kit.
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I could see burning thru them at 25,000 with a three inch leveling kit.my o.e. uppers were toast at 50,000 with a 2.5 inch level. If I ever did it again I would stick with a 2 inch kit.
Nailed it - sadly very few believe this applies to their trucks,

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What brand are you buying that they only last 25k?
or how much stress are you putting on them to fail as per snow plow,etc...?
I can't even get my own wheels out of the snow let alone a snow plow.
Napa Chassis, it is true, you can't just put a new joint in old control arm.
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Just changing BJ's does not require an alignment - the UCA's have nice round holes - no misalignment possible.
This is untrue. Just a few days ago I removed my OEM UCAs and installed ICON Uni-Ball UCAs. Although the holes are round there bigger than the bolt so misalignment can be possible. I was shocked with the amount of movement they had! The ICONs install using Factory hardware so it wasn't that the ICONs came with a small bolt or anything.

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This is untrue. Just a few days ago I removed my OEM UCAs and installed ICON Uni-Ball UCAs. Although the holes are round there bigger than the bolt so misalignment can be possible. I was shocked with the amount of movement they had! The ICONs install using Factory hardware so it wasn't that the ICONs came with a small bolt or anything.

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I had ZERO movement - the bolts ( all original FACTORY bolts ) were a tight fit - no slop.

And - being as **** as I am I went and got the camber checked - within spec.

Did you use different bolts? BTW - this was on a different year truck.

Quick tip - reinsert the bolts before you reinstall the UCA's - if they move laterally, get the alignment checked. If not - don't bother.

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Did you use different bolts? BTW - this was on a different year truck.
I realized after i posted that we were talking about different year trucks. Didn't think they were different, maybe it's all in my head lol. I reused Factory OEM bolts!

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I realized after i posted that we were talking about different year trucks. Didn't think they were different, maybe it's all in my head lol. I reused Factory OEM bolts!

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