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Old 02-23-2010, 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by GATORB8
When I was researching, I couldn't ever find anything to confirm that HBS had an offset. Their website didn't say anything about it either.
like i said autosprings has the patent so HBS would have to pay AS to use their design, and if your UCA rubs the strut you dont have a offset design
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Originally Posted by ford4wd08
ahve they redisgned? AS has the patent, im not arguing but where is the proof? ive heard quite a few having trouble where the UCA rubs the strut using the HBS, and ive had mine on for 15,000 miles no problems
I don't have mine installed yet, I am actually waiting on them. I bought them yesterday off ebay for $65.00. I spent hours reading reviews before I decided and seen the design that HBS has ( kinda the hexogon shaped ) and went with that one. I didn't see anything bad about the AS kit, I just noticed how many people had HBS with good luck. Especially with that design to keep from rubbing. Not arguing here either but I don't have physical proof as of yet.
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Originally Posted by Joe's truck
I don't have mine installed yet, I am actually waiting on them. I bought them yesterday off ebay for $65.00. I spent hours reading reviews before I decided and seen the design that HBS has ( kinda the hexogon shaped ) and went with that one. I didn't see anything bad about the AS kit, I just noticed how many people had HBS with good luck. Especially with that design to keep from rubbing. Not arguing here either but I don't have physical proof as of yet.
http://www.hellbentsteel.com/catalog...it/category/5/
i also know you have to rotate the strut 180 degrees to put it in if i remember right, im not saying its a bad kit either, but for little to no extra i think the AS kit is better it has gussets for more strength...
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Get the hellbent steel. The autospring is ok,but structually,the HBS is much better.
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Originally Posted by motard1
Get the hellbent steel. The autospring is ok,but structually,the HBS is much better.
how is it structally better?
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Originally Posted by ford4wd08
how is it structally better?
The design is structurally more sound. Before I bought mine,I had the specs and images reviewed by our engineers, machinists,and weld engineers. The welds on the autosprings are inferior to the HBS.
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Go with autosprings! they are the best
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Originally Posted by motard1
The design is structurally more sound. Before I bought mine,I had the specs and images reviewed by our engineers, machinists,and weld engineers. The welds on the autosprings are inferior to the HBS.
i dont see how gussets could be weaker, and my welds are great, did they actually have the product in hand? you cant tell much from a picture, anyways i think AS is better you think HBS is better i guess we can leave it at that, or we will argue for hours on end
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Originally Posted by ford4wd08
i dont see how gussets could be weaker, and my welds are great, did they actually have the product in hand? you cant tell much from a picture, anyways i think AS is better you think HBS is better i guess we can leave it at that, or we will argue for hours on end
Its the gussets that make them weaker. Because they arent necessary. What they did is a very common,bad practice. Over-engineering. When you add unnecessary welds,you also add unnecessary HAZs,or heat affected zones. With the gussets they used,they could have made the spacer from 10ga steel,and still be good.

But,since they don't typically see extreme useage,they should both be fine.
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Originally Posted by motard1
Its the gussets that make them weaker. Because they arent necessary. What they did is a very common,bad practice. Over-engineering. When you add unnecessary welds,you also add unnecessary HAZs,or heat affected zones. With the gussets they used,they could have made the spacer from 10ga steel,and still be good.

But,since they don't typically see extreme useage,they should both be fine.
you have a point i didnt think of it that way, to many gussets would affect the whole spacer, they do have them spaced very close so the heat from the weld would affect it, ok but the point is they will both get the job done


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