An alternative to the 5.4 3v.
#21
#22
I just thought I'd let everyone know that I have my 5.4 4v powered 04 F150 running and driving. I'm still dialing in the tune a little, and I have some odds and ends, but I drive the truck and it drives well.
I can give you guys a rough cost estimate for what I spent, so you can decide if such an undertaking is worth doing.
Parts I reused:
Fuel rail. I modified it to fit the Boss 302 intake
Oil pan. Direct fit on the navigator motor
Power steering pump reservoir and bracket. Pretty much direct fit.
Radiator.
A/C Compressor. I haven't charged up the A/C yet, but that's coming.
Fuel Injectors.
MAF Sensor.
Parts I purchased:
04 Lincoln Navigator 5.4 4v (84k miles)- $1600+tax (complete with coils)
2011+ Mustang Boss 302 intake - $500
96-98 Mustang Cobra coolant crossover tube & plug - $70
O-rings for 96-98 Mustang Cobra coolant crossover (2) (they might be listed under a 97 lincoln mark viii) - $10
96-98 Mustang Cobra thermostat housing and radiator hoses - $90
Airaid U-Build-It Cold Air Intake - $300
Airaid MAF sensor housing (hitachi style) - $50
04 Lincoln Navigator alternator - $65
2011+ Mustang GT throttle body - $165
5.4 4v to Boss 302 intake adaptor plates - $220
96-98 mustang cobra alternator bracket - $30
SCT Xcal3 - $250
SCT PRP -$300
Parts I modified:
Transmission dipstick tube - I cut the bracket off, it wouldn't fit otherwise
Fuel rail - I cut the braided line off and used high pressure fuel hose
Heads - To fit the intake, I had to grind some material off on the valley side of the heads.
Alternator bracket - One side fits fine, the other has to be modified because it is too short for the wider 5.4.
Wiring harness - I had to rerun the wires for the drive by wire throttle body and lengthen the wires for the coils.
I'm not saying this is a complete list or the prices are 100% accurate, but from memory this is pretty complete.
If anyone has any questions, let me know. This motor is a TIGHT squeeze in these trucks.
I can give you guys a rough cost estimate for what I spent, so you can decide if such an undertaking is worth doing.
Parts I reused:
Fuel rail. I modified it to fit the Boss 302 intake
Oil pan. Direct fit on the navigator motor
Power steering pump reservoir and bracket. Pretty much direct fit.
Radiator.
A/C Compressor. I haven't charged up the A/C yet, but that's coming.
Fuel Injectors.
MAF Sensor.
Parts I purchased:
04 Lincoln Navigator 5.4 4v (84k miles)- $1600+tax (complete with coils)
2011+ Mustang Boss 302 intake - $500
96-98 Mustang Cobra coolant crossover tube & plug - $70
O-rings for 96-98 Mustang Cobra coolant crossover (2) (they might be listed under a 97 lincoln mark viii) - $10
96-98 Mustang Cobra thermostat housing and radiator hoses - $90
Airaid U-Build-It Cold Air Intake - $300
Airaid MAF sensor housing (hitachi style) - $50
04 Lincoln Navigator alternator - $65
2011+ Mustang GT throttle body - $165
5.4 4v to Boss 302 intake adaptor plates - $220
96-98 mustang cobra alternator bracket - $30
SCT Xcal3 - $250
SCT PRP -$300
Parts I modified:
Transmission dipstick tube - I cut the bracket off, it wouldn't fit otherwise
Fuel rail - I cut the braided line off and used high pressure fuel hose
Heads - To fit the intake, I had to grind some material off on the valley side of the heads.
Alternator bracket - One side fits fine, the other has to be modified because it is too short for the wider 5.4.
Wiring harness - I had to rerun the wires for the drive by wire throttle body and lengthen the wires for the coils.
I'm not saying this is a complete list or the prices are 100% accurate, but from memory this is pretty complete.
If anyone has any questions, let me know. This motor is a TIGHT squeeze in these trucks.
#23
I also am trying to tackle this beast of a swap but I am going to try to figure out a way to use the navigator intake. I am thinking of getting the sct pro racer software, is it worth it? Also what cams should I upgrade it with if at all? No blower or turbo either.
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greg70 (05-23-2021)
#24
I use the pro racer software. I bought it from Don lasota and he's been excellent with support after purchase. He's very knowledgeable of tuning.
I'm not sure if that intake is great for torque but i know that a good set of cams will help a lot. I'm not knowledgeable enough to make a suggestion on cam specs though
#25
Are you planning on keeping the drive by wire? I couldn't find a throttle body that would work with it. I could've made an adapter but i wasn't very confident that this swap would even work.
I use the pro racer software. I bought it from Don lasota and he's been excellent with support after purchase. He's very knowledgeable of tuning.
I'm not sure if that intake is great for torque but i know that a good set of cams will help a lot. I'm not knowledgeable enough to make a suggestion on cam specs though
I use the pro racer software. I bought it from Don lasota and he's been excellent with support after purchase. He's very knowledgeable of tuning.
I'm not sure if that intake is great for torque but i know that a good set of cams will help a lot. I'm not knowledgeable enough to make a suggestion on cam specs though
#26
#27
Engine swap in a 2004 f150
I read your post on your engine swap. Did the engine fit in the compartment with no issue. The reason I'm asking is because I am doing the same thing and the heads are heading the firewall. Any suggestions on this. The one thing I change was the transmission from a 4r75e to a 4r100 which I wouldn't think it matters.
#28
I read your post on your engine swap. Did the engine fit in the compartment with no issue. The reason I'm asking is because I am doing the same thing and the heads are heading the firewall. Any suggestions on this. The one thing I change was the transmission from a 4r75e to a 4r100 which I wouldn't think it matters.
#29
5.4 swap
Good morning sir. I do not know if you are still driving your truck but I'm doing the same and I need help if you could please PM me with your email or number and I will call you. I really need some guidance on these. Thank you
Last edited by ymeski56; 12-10-2019 at 08:05 PM.
#30
Senior Member
You are not going to get an answer. Posting twice in this old thread isn't going to make that happen.
Last edited by ymeski56; 12-10-2019 at 08:05 PM.