gastrader1

My 08 has been at the dealer four seperate times all for a malfunctioning auto climate control. The past two times the dealer has installed a new head unit and this past visit they performed the TSB on the blend door plunger. Yesterday morning, I had the AC in manual mode set at 65 set to come out the dash vents, the temperature gauge I had put in the vent just to the right of the steering wheel peaked at 142 then settled between 100-115. This past Friday I started the "Lemon Law" process. I know of one other person experiencing the exact same problem that I am having and I am quite sure there are more out there. Ford engineers and the dealer techs are clueless to the to the cause and even more clueless as to the cause. Good luck.
Brian

BoatBoy1069

Ya they have had to replace my head unit twice. Both out of warranty only by a couple months and both at an unbearable cost (considering i have only 19K on the truck now, it was less when it happened) to me but what can you do you need the A/C!

BayouSupercrew

My 1st post but this is a very common issue with these and expeditions, unless you have more than like 15 visits to the dealer on this 1 problem, lemon law is a waste of time at this point, ford is suppose to finally have a fix to this issue. FWIW- my 08 auto climate isn't perfect either, sometimes when I put the vent on 65, it feels way hotter but shortly after it cools down. I am just going to try to wait it out until they for sure have the fix, I hate for anyone to work on my cars. In fact if the part isnt too much, I will just buy it and swap it out. I know that sounds weird for a new $30k truck, but I hear all sorts of horror srotires about sweaking dashes after these are replaced and other issues too.

YMMV
PS-I hang out on f150online.com too, a sister site maybe?

Brian, more reading here:
http://www.f150online.com/forums/hva...lend-door.html
http://www.f150online.com/forums/hva...-question.html
and
http://www.f150online.com/forums/hva...uper-crew.html

jhunt47

Printable View (50 KB) TSB
08-23-6

• EATC - INTERMITTENT WARM AIR OUTPUT TEMPERATURE SET 68-72 F (18-22 C)EMTC - INABILITY TO CONTROL TEMPERATURE OUTPUT

Publication Date: November 3, 2008
FORD:
2005-2008 F-150LINCOLN:
2006-2008 Mark LT

ISSUE:

Some 2005-2008 F-150 and 2006-2008 Mark LT vehicles equipped with Electronic Automatic Temperature Control (EATC) may exhibit intermittent periods of warm air output in Auto mode with the temperature control set between 68-72 degrees Fahrenheit (18-22 degrees Celsius). Some 2005-2008 F-150 vehicles equipped with Electronic Manual Temperature Control (EMTC) may exhibit periods where the cabin temperature cannot be maintained with the control ****. Some customers may also complain the heat cannot be reduced without rotating the control **** well into the Cool/Blue range.
ACTION:

Refer to the following Service Procedure to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE



The condition may be caused by a faulty temperature blend door actuator.

1. Check actuator activity.
   1. EATC systems may be monitored with the IDS PID (LBLNDPOS).
   2. EMTC systems may be observed through the right side of the instrument panel with the glove compartment door positioned downward.
2. Erratic PID activity or an actuator that appears to be erratically hunting for correct position during the condition should be replaced. Refer to Workshop Manual, Section 412-01, for removal and installation details.
   NOTE:THE IGNITION KEY MUST BE OFF WHEN REPLACING THE ACTUATOR. ENERGIZING THE ACTUATOR BEFORE INSTALLATION ON THE HEATING VENTILATION AIR CONDITIONING (HVAC) CASE WILL CAUSE THE PART TO BECOME MISS POSITIONED AND CORRECT ORIENTATION WILL BE LOST. INCORRECT ACTUATOR OPERATION MAY RESULT.

PART NUMBERPART NAME9L3Z-19E616-EActuator - Motor Asy

WARRANTY STATUS:

Eligible Under Provisions Of New Vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage
IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part.
OPERATIONDESCRIPTIONTIME082306A2005-2007 F-150, 2006-2007 Mark LT: Replace The Temperature Blend Door Actuator. (Do Not Use With 19700D, 19700D6, 19616C, 12650D)0.7 Hr.082306A2008 F-150, 2008 Mark LT: Replace The Temperature Blend Door Actuator. (Do Not Use With 19700D, 19700D6, 19616C, 12650D)0.5 Hr.
DEALER CODING

BASIC PART NO.CONDITION CODE19E61642
NOTE: The information in Technical Service Bulletins is intended for use by trained, professional technicians with the knowledge, tools, and equipment to do the job properly and safely. It informs these technicians of conditions that may occur on some vehicles, or provides information that could assist in proper vehicle service. The procedures should not be performed by "do-it-yourselfers". Do not assume that a condition described affects your car or truck. Contact a Ford, Lincoln, or Mercury dealership to determine whether the Bulletin applies to your vehicle. Warranty Policy and Extended Service Plan documentation determine Warranty and/or Extended Service Plan coverage unless stated otherwise in the TSB article. The information in this Technical Service Bulletin (TSB) was current at the time of printing. Ford Motor Company reserves the right to supercede this information with updates. The most recent information is available through Ford Motor Company's on-line technical resources.
Copyright © 2008 Ford Motor Company
<IMG height=1 alt="" width=1 border=0 name=s_i_fmcptsprod> maybe this will help

hhntr111

I've got the same problem on my 2008 SCrew. Thanks for the heads up.

FOMOCO466

I was thinking of adding the auto temp feature to my truck... maybe I'll just keep the manual... has there been any issues with the manual set up not working correctly... I've only got 3400 miles on my 08 screw

Scott2008

I too have the erratic heat issue. Only setting the temp to 60 degrees will cool things down. I also have a ticking in the center stack. I'm guessing it's related.

gastrader1

GOOD LUCK with getting that fixed properly. I had my F-150 at Woltz&Wind Ford in Pittsburgh, PA five times and there incompetent service department was unable to resolve this issue. I took my truck back to Mt. Orab Ford for repairs which they did correctly the first time without any hassles. Ford Motor was kind enough to give me at no charge a 5yr/75000 Premium Care ESP at no charge for my troubles. Not only was Woltz&Wind Ford unable to repair my truck, but upon actual repairs it appeared that they had not done anything except bill Ford for warranty work. The dealer that did fix my truck informed Ford that parts replaced were factory installed at the time of my truck being built. Again, good luck and I hope your dealer fixes your truck.

Redneckmafia

I have the ticking sound coming from the center dash and the heat too hot....

Redneckmafia

So what is the fix for the auto climate control and what the heck is the ticking sound????? I still have warranty so it all should be covered...