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18 Hours on my first plug change!!!

Old 03-30-2015, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MGD
Only a couple one-piece alternatives (leaving the E3 crap out of this discussion, lol).

Champ 7989 (double-plat)

Brisk Racing 3VR17YS (silver) - very short life change @ ~25K , tops

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How long do the Champ last?
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Why couldn't they just make a one piece SP-515 and solve this issue once and for all...
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Originally Posted by ArmyGuy45
How long do the Champ last?
Change them @ 60K or less.

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Old 03-31-2015, 08:11 AM
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Originally Posted by bwFX42006
Why couldn't they just make a one piece SP-515 and solve this issue once and for all...
They certainly could have. But the window has passed - that engine/head configuration is 2 generations old and only existed for ~ 4.5 years or so (at least in North America). They won't revise them now. And NGK elected to drop R&D on their version.

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Originally Posted by MGD
They certainly could have. But the window has passed - that engine/head configuration is 2 generations old and only existed for ~ 4.5 years or so (at least in North America). They won't revise them now. And NGK elected to drop R&D on their version.

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Additional question.....My father has a 12 generation F-150. It's a 2009 with the 5.4L 3V and 6-speed transmission. Are his plugs also SP-515's like the plugs in my 2006 5.4L? He bought the truck new and is due for plugs soon and asked if I could do them for him.....just wondering if I'm gonna have to worry about breaking any
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Originally Posted by bwFX42006
Additional question.....My father has a 12 generation F-150. It's a 2009 with the 5.4L 3V and 6-speed transmission. Are his plugs also SP-515's like the plugs in my 2006 5.4L? He bought the truck new and is due for plugs soon and asked if I could do them for him.....just wondering if I'm gonna have to worry about breaking any
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Nosir. That truck uses an SP509. Traditional-looking one-piece plug. No worries.

That plug change is cake. Same caveats apply - new boots & springs recommended, dielectric in the boots, no A/S on the threads. Gap them according to the spec stated in the manual and under the hood.

There will also be less excuse to devour 60 cans of Yak **** - try MGD instead , lol!

good luck
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Originally Posted by MGD
Hi.

Nosir. That truck uses an SP509. Traditional-looking one-piece plug. No worries.

That plug change is cake. Same caveats apply - new boots & springs recommended, dielectric in the boots, no A/S on the threads. Gap them according to the spec stated in the manual and under the hood.

There will also be less excuse to devour 60 cans of Yak **** - try MGD instead , lol!

good luck
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Thanks....haha i'll try and cut back on the yak ****
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Glad you got them done!

After struggling with myself for a couple of months, I decided to take mine to Ford last week to have them changed at 112,000 miles. I thought by the time I bought the tools and plugs that it would be cheaper in the long run to get Ford to do it. I know the service manager so he gave me a break on the labor and plugs and a reduced rate if any broke. I did run Seafoam almost every tank of gas for those two months.

End result - not a single plug broke and I got out the door for $344.

Two side notes - 1. it's freaking amazing how much better the truck runs. I've never had any idle issues or the other issues associated with the 5.4L so I thought it was running pretty well. Little did I know. The first tank after, I'm getting at least a full 1 mpg better mileage and much better power and smoother idle and acceleration.

2. When I was talking with the service manager about having the plugs changed, he told me to take a coil off and see if there was a red or yellow paint dot on the top of the plug. If so, it was original. He did say that not every original plug would have the paint dot. Took the coil off and sure enough a red dot on top of the plug. I didn't recall that I had ever heard that or read that in any of the threads about the plugs. Can anyone else confirm that their original plugs had a paint dot on the plug?

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Originally Posted by 07KR
Glad you got them done!

After struggling with myself for a couple of months, I decided to take mine to Ford last week to have them changed at 112,000 miles. I thought by the time I bought the tools and plugs that it would be cheaper in the long run to get Ford to do it. I know the service manager so he gave me a break on the labor and plugs and a reduced rate if any broke. I did run Seafoam almost every tank of gas for those two months.

End result - not a single plug broke and I got out the door for $344.

Two side notes - 1. it's freaking amazing how much better the truck runs. I've never had any idle issues or the other issues associated with the 5.4L so I thought it was running pretty well. Little did I know. The first tank after, I'm getting at least a full 1 mpg better mileage and much better power and smoother idle and acceleration.

2. When I was talking with the service manager about having the plugs changed, he told me to take a coil off and see if there was a red or yellow paint dot on the top of the plug. If so, it was original. He did say that not every original plug would have the paint dot. Took the coil off and sure enough a red dot on top of the plug. I didn't recall that I had ever heard that or read that in any of the threads about the plugs. Can anyone else confirm that their original plugs had a paint dot on the plug?
I agree....I'm seeing a huge difference in shifting smoothness as well as acceleration. As for the paint on the plugs...I just looked at mine....seems like they all have a white dot on top (could be yellowish, it's hard to tell...) so there could be some truth to your paint dot theory.
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If I am changing out the coils with the plugs, I put nickle anti-seize on the plug thread and the plug 'shaft' but do I put the grease in the coil pack where it connect to the plug?

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