This 06 is testing my Ford loyalty
04-08-2016, 09:41 PM
#31
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Wow that's exactly how my motor popped, cylinder 3 dropped a valve. I swear I've read a few other posts all with cylinder 3 being the culprit..
7k is a bit much for a motor swap, I did mine for 5k myself with all accessories replaced with brand new oem parts including the starter, HD flexplate, sensors, ps pump, water pump etc.... I even put stainless short tubes on there too, and true duals for a few extra bucks.
Get a better price, a new engine is a new beginning, and $2800-3800 should get you a new (remanufactured) motor.. I went with AER ($3400) and this new motor has all the updates and issues resolved that Ford stiffed us with..
The old motor went to 195k miles on the nose before she popped, with about 40k supercharged miles. The old motor was pretty solid, and really never gave me any issues the whole time except for that damn valve dropping.. My new motor is also supercharged and it doesn't even break a sweat with all the power.. The tranny even has 206k miles on it now and still shifts great.
I hate to give the 5.4 3v too much bad cred, it's a good motor overall, with great power right where you need it. The VCT system is its only real pitfall, but with all the updated parts and machining specs it really does work well for such a poor overall design.
Frequent oil changes are critical, but I won't argue that it can be an engine that's better suited for owners that are mechanically inclined... I'm not saying it's piece of chit, but I am saying anybody who touches one of these motors really needs to know them. Even a routine spark plug change will blow up in your face if you have no prior information going in..
7k is a bit much for a motor swap, I did mine for 5k myself with all accessories replaced with brand new oem parts including the starter, HD flexplate, sensors, ps pump, water pump etc.... I even put stainless short tubes on there too, and true duals for a few extra bucks.
Get a better price, a new engine is a new beginning, and $2800-3800 should get you a new (remanufactured) motor.. I went with AER ($3400) and this new motor has all the updates and issues resolved that Ford stiffed us with..
The old motor went to 195k miles on the nose before she popped, with about 40k supercharged miles. The old motor was pretty solid, and really never gave me any issues the whole time except for that damn valve dropping.. My new motor is also supercharged and it doesn't even break a sweat with all the power.. The tranny even has 206k miles on it now and still shifts great.
I hate to give the 5.4 3v too much bad cred, it's a good motor overall, with great power right where you need it. The VCT system is its only real pitfall, but with all the updated parts and machining specs it really does work well for such a poor overall design.
Frequent oil changes are critical, but I won't argue that it can be an engine that's better suited for owners that are mechanically inclined... I'm not saying it's piece of chit, but I am saying anybody who touches one of these motors really needs to know them. Even a routine spark plug change will blow up in your face if you have no prior information going in..
04-11-2016, 09:03 PM
#32
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Anyone have a real world estimate of what I could get for my truck with the blown engine?
2006 Screw 4x4, Toyo AT2 tires @ 10K miles, 3.73 LS, in excellent shape, minus the engine of course LOL
2006 Screw 4x4, Toyo AT2 tires @ 10K miles, 3.73 LS, in excellent shape, minus the engine of course LOL
04-11-2016, 09:20 PM
#33
Camping enthusiast
I know you only got 110k out of the current engine which failed far to early. I think you would have better luck the next time around...
Plus you have a rust free Georgia truck man!
04-11-2016, 09:40 PM
#34
Cycle For Fun and Health
^^^^^
There's a good answer.
Fix it or have it fixed and then enjoy the ride.
These are great trucks.
Don't give up.
There's a good answer.
Fix it or have it fixed and then enjoy the ride.
These are great trucks.
Don't give up.
04-11-2016, 11:26 PM
#35
Originally Posted by skintback
Seems some have problems, and some don't. Have a friend that drives a 2005 F-250 with the 5.4 3V and it has 408K miles on it. All original. Had to replace some COPs and a few other minor things, but that's very impressive. This is his work truck and he travels a lot. He'll be the 1st to admit that he hasn't serviced it like he should and this thing is in rough shape. Maybe these engines are meant to be run hard and neglected!! LOL!
Your trucks probably lucky to fetch 3k quickly and maybe 4.5k tops, if you can even wait long enough for a buyer that's willing to take on a motor swap. I'd personally fix it and never look back if I was you.
A motor swap is not that pricy if you plan accordingly just do it yourself.. You could also pay a buddy who's handy with cars and has the right tools if you find that your just ill equipped to handle it solo.
You can also toss some of the material costs on a credit card if cash is an issue.
Just remember, cars are always a crapshoot. If I were to sell my truck with my new supercharged motor today, and told the buyer I've got 200k plus for miles, their probably gonna look at me like I got a piece of chit stuck in my teeth if the price was over 10k.. Your never gonna win.
Last edited by Especial86; 04-11-2016 at 11:31 PM.
04-11-2016, 11:36 PM
#36
Super Duper Senior Member
$7500 is what the dealership charged to swap out the engine on my 08. (warranty repair) I got a Ford engine. I think $7K is a bit high for a Jasper.
04-12-2016, 07:37 AM
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Don't feel bad guys, I just replaced my 5.4 engine in my 2004 F150 screw. I got 172,000 and the cam phasers failed. I changed oil and filter every 3-4 thousand miles with ford oil and filter. The new motor is a ford motor with a 3 year, unlimited mile warranty. They also put in a new updated radiator with new transmission lines and a new oil pressure gauge cluster. All this was done at the local ford dealership with a $10,500 bill. I know this is high but my truck is in perfect shape with no rust. I figure this is cheaper than a new 40-50 thousand dollar payment!
Skinback... I just seen a 2004 F150 Screw on craigslist with a blown motor for $3,500. Looked in decent shape but the cab corners were rusted out.
Skinback... I just seen a 2004 F150 Screw on craigslist with a blown motor for $3,500. Looked in decent shape but the cab corners were rusted out.
05-28-2016, 08:08 AM
#38
Senior Member
Thread Starter
Update:
Had the engine pulled and pulled the passenger side head off. The exhaust valve was bent and did not fully drop into the cylinder and did not damage the piston. Found that the cam lobes are pressed on, not machined with the camshaft. The lobe for that valve was loose on the shaft and had walked over some, which caused the valve damage. Inside of the engine is clean as a whistle. Machine shop checking the head and will go from there.
Are pressed on lobes normal in today's modern engines? I assumed they were all machined?
Had the engine pulled and pulled the passenger side head off. The exhaust valve was bent and did not fully drop into the cylinder and did not damage the piston. Found that the cam lobes are pressed on, not machined with the camshaft. The lobe for that valve was loose on the shaft and had walked over some, which caused the valve damage. Inside of the engine is clean as a whistle. Machine shop checking the head and will go from there.
Are pressed on lobes normal in today's modern engines? I assumed they were all machined?
05-29-2016, 06:14 AM
#39
Update:
Had the engine pulled and pulled the passenger side head off. The exhaust valve was bent and did not fully drop into the cylinder and did not damage the piston. Found that the cam lobes are pressed on, not machined with the camshaft. The lobe for that valve was loose on the shaft and had walked over some, which caused the valve damage. Inside of the engine is clean as a whistle. Machine shop checking the head and will go from there.
Are pressed on lobes normal in today's modern engines? I assumed they were all machined?
Had the engine pulled and pulled the passenger side head off. The exhaust valve was bent and did not fully drop into the cylinder and did not damage the piston. Found that the cam lobes are pressed on, not machined with the camshaft. The lobe for that valve was loose on the shaft and had walked over some, which caused the valve damage. Inside of the engine is clean as a whistle. Machine shop checking the head and will go from there.
Are pressed on lobes normal in today's modern engines? I assumed they were all machined?