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Old 10-15-2013, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by 5111
Just to add a bit of info...

I had this exact same issue several times on my 2010 with the 5.4L. Ford never did figure out the problem.
Interesting,,, if that is the case then maybe it is a computer / transmission issue instead of the turbo system??? Come to think about it years ago I worked on cars which in todays standard would be called drive by cable! More or less we had cables or linkage to control the fuel and the trans via a kick down cable... so today they electronic for fuel and trans control so being out of the trade for over 25 years I wonder if they are using two different computers for this and thus once you WOT under a humid rainy condition (affecting electronic with condensation) sending a message to the trans to downshift but maybe due to condensation affecting the electronics is doesn't send enough current to the sensor and thus throws the trans in a fit which again then would relate to a cel, and fuel issue and so on!!! Interesting and possible! So maybe they have an issue with the computers on humid days trying to send one command but all the other commands work as should be???
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Originally Posted by KP Texan
I talk like I'm going to give it up, but probably won't haha. The wife would probably kill me and it's not the most financially smart decision to get rid of a new truck...who knows though; I might get a wild hair and do it.

Also, this is my first big issue with the truck...
Your CEL coming on is a "big issue" ???
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Originally Posted by 5111
Just to add a bit of info...

I had this exact same issue several times on my 2010 with the 5.4L. Ford never did figure out the problem.

That is a fluke coincidence and not a result of design similarities.
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Originally Posted by Starrbuck
Your CEL coming on is a "big issue" ???
I realize that it's not like it threw a rod through the block or the transmission grenaded on me, but I would still consider it a big issue. Anything that causes me to have to slow down well under the speed limit and then pull off the road is not a small issue. If it were my beater that would be one thing, but it's my brand new truck!
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It's funny how people jump on the "loss of power" bandwagon. Your CEL flashing can mean any number of things, including misfires which could be spark plug gapping. Until you know for a fact it was water condensation from the CAC causing the CEL, don't post on the forums claiming these issues because it does give the wrong image. While I would be upset if it happened to me, I would approach it from a standpoint of let's figure this thing out. If you think Toyota's are problem free, you are dead wrong... the Tundra is plagued by random AIP issues, transmission issues, and cold start issues.

CEL flashing is generally harmless, it's when it comes on and stays on that there is a problem recorded by the computer. My first check would be spark plug gapping.
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Originally Posted by mamonti
I wonder if they are using two different computers

Nope, one computer (Powertrain control module) does it all, well all for the powertrain anyway, there are several other onboard computers that have other tasks like SRS (air bags) ABS (antilock brakes) etc.


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Originally Posted by prime81
It's funny how people jump on the "loss of power" bandwagon. Your CEL flashing can mean any number of things, including misfires which could be spark plug gapping. Until you know for a fact it was water condensation from the CAC causing the CEL, don't post on the forums claiming these issues because it does give the wrong image. While I would be upset if it happened to me, I would approach it from a standpoint of let's figure this thing out. If you think Toyota's are problem free, you are dead wrong... the Tundra is plagued by random AIP issues, transmission issues, and cold start issues.

CEL flashing is generally harmless, it's when it comes on and stays on that there is a problem recorded by the computer. My first check would be spark plug gapping.
You posted this comment on another forum in regards to your own Ecoboost CAC issue:

"Just get rid of em, this issue has been around for 3 years now and Ford is still ****ing around with it. I spent 50k on a f150 platinum EB, 3600 miles, 11 issues, 3 dealerships, and 2 Ford reps later I traded it in for my current Tundra.... so far 5000 miles of trouble free operation."

So why the change of heart?
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Originally Posted by KP Texan
You posted this comment on another forum in regards to your own Ecoboost CAC issue:

"Just get rid of em, this issue has been around for 3 years now and Ford is still ****ing around with it. I spent 50k on a f150 platinum EB, 3600 miles, 11 issues, 3 dealerships, and 2 Ford reps later I traded it in for my current Tundra.... so far 5000 miles of trouble free operation."

So why the change of heart?
I have a 2013 F150 Fx4 EB that I special ordered due to the fixes Ford released. 9000 miles of trouble free operation so far on this EB. Built June 11th 2013

Previous F150 Platinum I had was a lemon, lots of issues ranging from cosmetics to motor. I dumped it and kept watching to see when Ford was fixing the issues. I've towed and driven and hammered my truck in high humidity and rain and while towing my fifth wheel.
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Originally Posted by prime81
It's funny how people jump on the "loss of power" bandwagon. Your CEL flashing can mean any number of things, including misfires which could be spark plug gapping.
Yes, it "can" and "could" be, however when Ford has 5 (possibly more) TSB's relating to the Ecoboost for this very issue, it can be safely assumed as the culprit unless proven otherwise. These TSB's in addition to Ford's very detailed response to the NHTSA shows this is first thing that should be assumed when dealing with a CEL on an Ecoboost.
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Originally Posted by HunterSmitty

Yes, it "can" and "could" be, however when Ford has 5 (possibly more) TSB's relating to the Ecoboost for this very issue, it can be safely assumed as the culprit unless proven otherwise. These TSB's in addition to Ford's very detailed response to the NHTSA shows this is first thing that should be assumed when dealing with a CEL on an Ecoboost.
One of the TSBs specifically address people/technicians misdiagnosing other issues such as spark plugs as water ingestion. Apparently Ford believes that is common, though I wonder. I'm also only aware of three TSBs, but I might have missed some.


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