Squealing brakes
12-08-2011, 08:11 AM
#1
Squealing brakes
I've got a 2010 Lariat screw with 10,3xx miles. I called yesterday to make an appointment for my second oil change. While they've got it, I want them to fix the dry slip yoke and the squealing brakes. The tech that I talked to knew that both problems were common and acted like it was no big deal, BUT that the squealing brakes (after the truck sits; until the brakes get warmed up) was normal and there's nothing they can do about them! He said he'd have them look at them, but it was "normal"!
Am I being unreasonable to want squealing brakes fixed on a "new" truck?
Am I being unreasonable to want squealing brakes fixed on a "new" truck?
12-08-2011, 08:46 AM
#4
Sneakerhead
I've got a 10' screw and just hit the 10,000 mile mark on Monday. Have noticed my brakes squeaking when I pull out of the driveway and hit the first stop sign and stop light on my way to work. Mine seem fine as stated before me once they warm up.
12-08-2011, 10:25 AM
#6
Senior Member
Mine started doing this about 2 months ago. It's really only when it's from a cold start. Then it goes away. The dealer just notified me that there is a fix for it. It's called slamming on your breaks and activating the ABS. That it should take care of that. I have not tried it yet, as they still have my truck, and i won't be picking it up until tomorrow. But you bet i will do that as soon as i pick it up tomorrow.
12-08-2011, 10:32 AM
#7
Sneakerhead
Mine started doing this about 2 months ago. It's really only when it's from a cold start. Then it goes away. The dealer just notified me that there is a fix for it. It's called slamming on your breaks and activating the ABS. That it should take care of that. I have not tried it yet, as they still have my truck, and i won't be picking it up until tomorrow. But you bet i will do that as soon as i pick it up tomorrow.
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12-08-2011, 10:38 AM
#8
Senior Member
Slam on the brakes as in wear them in like how you do it for new brakes? You shouldn't need to engage the ABS.
http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm
From 60mph, gently apply the brakes a couple of times to bring them up to operating temperature. This prevents you from thermally shocking the rotors and pads in the next steps.
Make eight to ten near-stops from 60mph to about 10-15 mph. Do it HARD by pressing the brakes firmly, but do not lock the wheels or engage ABS. At the end of each slowdown, immediately accelerate back to 60mph and then apply the brakes again. DO NOT COME TO A COMPLETE STOP! If you stop completely and sit with your foot on the brake pedal, you will imprint pad material onto the hot rotors, which could lead to vibration and uneven braking.
The brakes may begin to fade after the 7th or 8th near-stop. This fade will stabilize, but not completely go away until the brakes have fully cooled. A strong smell from the brakes, and even some smoke, is normal.
After the last near-stop, accelerate back up to speed and cruise for a while, using the brakes as little as possible. The brakes need only a few minutes to cool down. Try not to become trapped in traffic or come to a complete stop while the brakes are still very hot.
http://www.zeckhausen.com/bedding_in_brakes.htm
From 60mph, gently apply the brakes a couple of times to bring them up to operating temperature. This prevents you from thermally shocking the rotors and pads in the next steps.
Make eight to ten near-stops from 60mph to about 10-15 mph. Do it HARD by pressing the brakes firmly, but do not lock the wheels or engage ABS. At the end of each slowdown, immediately accelerate back to 60mph and then apply the brakes again. DO NOT COME TO A COMPLETE STOP! If you stop completely and sit with your foot on the brake pedal, you will imprint pad material onto the hot rotors, which could lead to vibration and uneven braking.
The brakes may begin to fade after the 7th or 8th near-stop. This fade will stabilize, but not completely go away until the brakes have fully cooled. A strong smell from the brakes, and even some smoke, is normal.
After the last near-stop, accelerate back up to speed and cruise for a while, using the brakes as little as possible. The brakes need only a few minutes to cool down. Try not to become trapped in traffic or come to a complete stop while the brakes are still very hot.
12-09-2011, 12:13 PM
#9
I picked up my truck, late yesterday. The service writer told me that my brakes were fine ... no sign of wear, the pads were good, the rotors were good, and they worked fine.
When I asked him about the squeal, he said that it's normal and is caused by moisture building up, when the truck sits. I've never had ANY brakes squeal unless they were worn out, so I told him he was full of **** and I wanted to talk to the service manager.
Service manager told me the same BS story, that it was normal, when the brakes were cold, and that there was nothing they could do. I asked him if the truck leaked oil, when it was cold, but quit, once it got warmed up, if that would be normal. He said of course not. He couldn't answer, when I asked him why it was OK to have one "cold" problem, but not OK to have a different one. Then I asked him to talk to his boss.
Same rigamarole. It's normal, blah blah blah. I explained that it was NOT normal and I've never had any other vehicle that's done that and asked why I should accept a practically "new" truck that has squealing brakes. He told it was just MY opinion that it wasn't acceptable and Ford says that squealing brakes ARE acceptalbe! He said he could "patch" the problem, with some brake quiet, but it wasn't covered under warranty! He seemed to get a little perterbed when I suggested that they could have put that crap on when he had the whole brake system tore apart to "inspect" it, which I doubt they even did.
I had to walk out before I punched the guy in the nose!
When they call to do their "service survey" they're getting an ear full. If I can find out who the next level of management is, I'll contact them, as well.
FTR, Champion Ford in Katy, Texas is run by a bunch of morons!
When I asked him about the squeal, he said that it's normal and is caused by moisture building up, when the truck sits. I've never had ANY brakes squeal unless they were worn out, so I told him he was full of **** and I wanted to talk to the service manager.
Service manager told me the same BS story, that it was normal, when the brakes were cold, and that there was nothing they could do. I asked him if the truck leaked oil, when it was cold, but quit, once it got warmed up, if that would be normal. He said of course not. He couldn't answer, when I asked him why it was OK to have one "cold" problem, but not OK to have a different one. Then I asked him to talk to his boss.
Same rigamarole. It's normal, blah blah blah. I explained that it was NOT normal and I've never had any other vehicle that's done that and asked why I should accept a practically "new" truck that has squealing brakes. He told it was just MY opinion that it wasn't acceptable and Ford says that squealing brakes ARE acceptalbe! He said he could "patch" the problem, with some brake quiet, but it wasn't covered under warranty! He seemed to get a little perterbed when I suggested that they could have put that crap on when he had the whole brake system tore apart to "inspect" it, which I doubt they even did.
I had to walk out before I punched the guy in the nose!
When they call to do their "service survey" they're getting an ear full. If I can find out who the next level of management is, I'll contact them, as well.
FTR, Champion Ford in Katy, Texas is run by a bunch of morons!
12-09-2011, 12:18 PM
#10
I also have this problem on my 2011. I talked to a mechanic I know about it and he says that there is nothing ford or anyone will do. He also said its caused by the amount of metal in the new pads to get optimum stopping power. My only squeal when it's below 0. And only after I passed 8k. Annoying but it goes away like most are saying.
