Retrofitting OEM HID's...
#12
All I am saying is that the forward lighting is more than adequate. It might not be industry leading but, at least I, can always see more than well enough to safely navigate at any reasonable and appropriate speed. There isn't too many things that "couldn't be any better" and this is no exception, but to call that bad/poor/inadequate/etc is simply untrue.
OP, that $650 is better spent elsewhere, unless you really cannot see with the OEM HIDs and it is a safety issue.
#13
i drive mostly city, but the highways outside of Toronto are usually pitch black, the odd time i will drive up to cottage country. i have perfect vision but i always been the type to want/have the best. i kind of have a hard time seeing in the pouring rain/snow.
i was planning on retrofitting some Led strips/halos as DRL's, so i might as well throw better projectors.
if the output increase to cost ratio isnt worth it i might just buy better CBI bulbs
i was planning on retrofitting some Led strips/halos as DRL's, so i might as well throw better projectors.
if the output increase to cost ratio isnt worth it i might just buy better CBI bulbs
#14
The Light Guy
you can easily spend half of that and do the upgrade yourself. i just recently upgraded my 11 to the oem hid housings and also upgraded the projectors. i did not go with the evox-r's but that was my choice. the evos are a good projector and are a direct bolt in and can be done in just a few hours and around 310 bucks from theretrofitsource.com.
thats projectors, d2s xb bulbs, and morimoto xb ballasts.
my preference would be to use 50w ballasts with 5500k bulbs, they claim on paper their new xb bulb is as good as the osram cbi's at a quarter the cost. i have driven in vehicles with the same projectors, morimoto FX-r's, with both cbi's and the new xb bulbs. i can not say one is better vs the other. disclaimer - cbi's were in AZ, my xb's are here in MN, but driving conditions were the same, 2 lane roads no ambient light sources.
tools required: 10mm, 7mm socket and ratchet, #2 phillips, t10 and t20 torques, oven @250* and suitable work space.
any other questions let me know, i like lighting and i like helping people out
thats projectors, d2s xb bulbs, and morimoto xb ballasts.
my preference would be to use 50w ballasts with 5500k bulbs, they claim on paper their new xb bulb is as good as the osram cbi's at a quarter the cost. i have driven in vehicles with the same projectors, morimoto FX-r's, with both cbi's and the new xb bulbs. i can not say one is better vs the other. disclaimer - cbi's were in AZ, my xb's are here in MN, but driving conditions were the same, 2 lane roads no ambient light sources.
tools required: 10mm, 7mm socket and ratchet, #2 phillips, t10 and t20 torques, oven @250* and suitable work space.
any other questions let me know, i like lighting and i like helping people out
#15
Me personally, I think it's a huge waste of $$$ just for a show item.
You already have FACTORY superior grade Ford engineered projectors.
I've had HID's in my Hayabusa, and my SUV since 2003.
Even I haven't updated my Halogens in my F150 simply because it's outlandish
for the minor upgrade. Their factory halogens are pretty damn good IMHO.
#17
American member
Retrofitting OEM HID's...
I didn't think the lighting on my 2011 was bad, and I always saw at night just fine. Then I traded it in and my 2014 came with the OEM HID's. Wow, what a difference. I couldn't go back to the halogens now.
OP, that $650 is better spent elsewhere, unless you really cannot see with the OEM HIDs and it is a safety issue.
OP, that $650 is better spent elsewhere, unless you really cannot see with the OEM HIDs and it is a safety issue.
The high beams are amazing.
Are they the best? No..the high/low beam, minor shield flicker, could be well....not at all.
As far as led outlines on them, that I think looks damn good, and falls inline with the 15's design theme.
#18
The Light Guy
It really is probably the easiest retro to do. All the decorative shrouds come off with the lense and your to the nitty gritty
#19
Senior Member
I was actually shocked the first time I drove my truck with the factory halogens at night. I felt that my 03 ranger with the factory setup was way better. But, It probably was because I was spoiled with the mini d2s retro's I did in that ranger, along with the scion tc I traded in with factory projectors that I thought were fantastic for a cheap commuter car.
I upgraded to FX-R's in my f150, and couldnt be happier. They were pricey, but well worth it IMO compared to the factory halogens. My buddy has a 2013 fx4 with the factory projectors, I plan on comparing his to mine at some point.
#20
The Light Guy
I agree.
I was actually shocked the first time I drove my truck with the factory halogens at night. I felt that my 03 ranger with the factory setup was way better. But, It probably was because I was spoiled with the mini d2s retro's I did in that ranger, along with the scion tc I traded in with factory projectors that I thought were fantastic for a cheap commuter car.
I upgraded to FX-R's in my f150, and couldnt be happier. They were pricey, but well worth it IMO compared to the factory halogens. My buddy has a 2013 fx4 with the factory projectors, I plan on comparing his to mine at some point.
I was actually shocked the first time I drove my truck with the factory halogens at night. I felt that my 03 ranger with the factory setup was way better. But, It probably was because I was spoiled with the mini d2s retro's I did in that ranger, along with the scion tc I traded in with factory projectors that I thought were fantastic for a cheap commuter car.
I upgraded to FX-R's in my f150, and couldnt be happier. They were pricey, but well worth it IMO compared to the factory halogens. My buddy has a 2013 fx4 with the factory projectors, I plan on comparing his to mine at some point.