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Old 02-03-2014, 02:34 PM   #1
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13 lariat green gem. I'm for sure gonna get the grill surround painted and was wondering how much yall are paying for this? Will it save me money by removing it myself before paint, or is the labor of removing it not a big deal for the painter? If so, how hard is it remove safely? thanks
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Reef, I had mine removed, painted, and installed for $200. I have read that the clips are easy to break, so I figured with my limited ability I would let the guy that knew how take care of the process.


I suggest the next time you by the Body Shop get a estimate. You may find it's cheap enough not to bother with it yourself.
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You will get allot of different answers as labor rates are different state to state.


I've done quite a few of these at my current shop. We get the paper work, so I can see what customers pay.

Again this is my shop...

Grille surround just paint: 1.0 hours labor. Or $52 not including tax etc.

Grille surround disassembled and paint: 2 hours body labor or $104 and 1 hour paint or $52. So $156 before tax.
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Thanks a lot. In your experience, is taking it off pretty easy? Im more than capable doing stuff like this, so as long as I won't break anything Ill try it myself. Also, would green gem cost more because its a specialty metallic color or is all the same on the color spectrum?
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It's all pretty much the same. The only colors that will cost more are tri-stage paint, like Ruby red, or the white pearl color.


The body techs typically do all the disassembling. They seem to have no issues, and never break anything, but they have done tons of them. There was a video floating around on here about a month ago. Guy made it look easy
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okay cool, Ill look for it. Pretty easy and cheap mod and will look much better IMO in the end. This is what I'm wanting to go from

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It's actually easy to remove the grille and surround...after you've done one.

Its the first time doing it that makes it so tough. Hearing about broken tabs and worring about it as you try to pop it free.

Really, its not bad with the right tools.

If you try yourself, tape the hood so you dont scratch the paint and get yourself one of those these: (one on the far left)
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It makes it a lot easier.
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I have a white gill surround at the body shop right now being painted silver. I brought them just the surround. Paying $100 cash to have it painted.

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I have a white gill surround at the body shop right now being painted silver. I brought them just the surround. Paying $100 cash to have it painted.

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Great, can't wait to see the pictures.
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Great, can't wait to see the pictures.
I purchased a PTM Tuxedo Black grill surround with the black plastic insert off eBay. I swapped out the black insert for my existing chrome insert. Put the assembly back on the truck and it was the best exterior modification I made, without question. Sold the chrome surround and black plastic insert on eBay (as a package) and my total cash outlay was $65. The tools highlighted by GriffFX4 are the ones I purchased, except I bought the 4 piece set for $5 on eBay. Well worth the cost as the nylon tools are pretty forgiving. I put a towel at the leverage point. If you do it yourself, you need time and patience. There is a trick to separating the surround from the insert. If you decide to tackle it yourself, PM me and I can discuss it with you. Or just have someone else paint it. I found the tools themselves pretty helpful for interior panel removal on my wife's SAAB 9-3 2.3T. Never thought I'd have two turbo vehicles (especially a truck), but here we are.
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Solid advice, Rohanda. I will definitely seek out some more info from you when I decide to do this soon.
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It's all pretty much the same. The only colors that will cost more are tri-stage paint, like Ruby red, or the white pearl color.


The body techs typically do all the disassembling. They seem to have no issues, and never break anything, but they have done tons of them. There was a video floating around on here about a month ago. Guy made it look easy

Thanks @mbullock, I forgot to mention the difference in the paint. The guy that did mine went through several mixings to get the correct match.
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Well guys, I'm **** out of luck right now. I called 3 paint shops in my area and they all basically told me that they won't paint it because the paint won't stick well and will start to chip over time. I've heard this is kinda BS, but I wasn't gonna argue with these guys who have been in the business for 40 years. I then called my local dealership and talked to a guy in parts who basically told me the same thing. Unfortunately, you can't just order the PTM surround, just the entire grill assembly which is about $800. I was really looking forward to this...Thanks for the help though.
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Well guys, I'm **** out of luck right now. I called 3 paint shops in my area and they all basically told me that they won't paint it because the paint won't stick well and will start to chip over time. I've heard this is kinda BS, but I wasn't gonna argue with these guys who have been in the business for 40 years. I then called my local dealership and talked to a guy in parts who basically told me the same thing. Unfortunately, you can't just order the PTM surround, just the entire grill assembly which is about $800. I was really looking forward to this...Thanks for the help though.
Yeah the older painters sometimes have very closed minds on this topic. I work with a few like that.


I've painted many chrome pieces. It's why I made this thread


http://www.f150forum.com/f116/how-paint-chrome-203305/
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Perhaps you can find someone selling a grill with the surround already painted. That's what I did but I took it a step further and disassembled my grill completely so I could black out the grill body behind the bars, then used the painted surround for this result.




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How about I just ship you the part and you paint it for me?
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Perhaps you can find someone selling a grill with the surround already painted. That's what I did but I took it a step further and disassembled my grill completely so I could black out the grill body behind the bars, then used the painted surround for this result.




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Problem is that mine is green gem metallic...pretty hard to find. It's AMAZING how much better the front end of your truck looks after doing yours. wow
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If you can't find a painter, keep looking on eBay for the green surround, regardless of the insert as long as it can be separated from the surround. If you find it, we can further discuss how to swap out the inserts.
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A green gem surround is gonna be pretty hard to find IMO. Keep asking around and eventually you will find someone to paint it for you. It looks much better IMO
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