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Old 08-06-2012, 09:03 AM   #1
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I was planning on having some paint sealant put on my truck as soon as I get it. The carwash I go to is one of those steam places (Steam Force Car Wash), and they take really good care of the vehicles they wash. It's like they actually care about the vehicles they clean. Takes them about an hour to do. Anyway, when they wax vehicles, they use Fire Glaze, which is a polish and paint sealant. I've had it used on my vehicles in the past, and they come out looking better than when they were brand new. I was planning on having them put some on my '13 Limited when it comes in, and then I was going to put another coat of wax over it just because. Is it a good idea to have a paint sealant applied to a new vehicle? Is there a better paint sealant I should use? This is the stuff the place I go to uses: http://www.autopolish.com/ I don't necessarily buy into their claims about the product, but I do think it looks good and seems to last a while. (I asked about Fire Glaze in the Detailing section of the forum, but no one has responded to the thread. Figured I'd have better luck here.)
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It is a total rip-off! There is no such thing as paint sealer. It is just wax with a big price tag. I was a F&I guy at a dealership and it is just a money maker. The stuff costs about $2/car and really is crap. Do yourself a favor, keep your truck clean with occasional washing and apply a coat of good quality car wax without abrasives very 3-4 months. Some guys here like Collinite which I've tried and it is fine. I personally like Zaino wax as it easily lasts 6 months. I also use Eagle-1, wash as you dry every wash. It renews your wax job and keeps the truck very shiny and smooth without any added work. Now, send me that $400-500 you were going to pay for sealant and we will both be happy.
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It is a total rip-off! There is no such thing as paint sealer. It is just wax with a big price tag. I was a F&I guy at a dealership and it is just a money maker. The stuff costs about $2/car and really is crap. Do yourself a favor, keep your truck clean with occasional washing and apply a coat of good quality car wax without abrasives very 3-4 months. Some guys here like Collinite which I've tried and it is fine. I personally like Zaino wax as it easily lasts 6 months. I also use Eagle-1, wash as you dry every wash. It renews your wax job and keeps the truck very shiny and smooth without any added work. Now, send me that $400-500 you were going to pay for sealant and we will both be happy.
To have my truck steam washed, the interior cleaned, and the Fire Glaze applied is $70. No where near $400-500. I wouldn't even consider something that expensive.
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Anything the dealer offers you for a "cleaning" or waxing is going to be crap. Do it yourself, more importantly, learn how to do it so you can keep the truck protected for years and years to come and you will save lots of money in the process.

Also I would hesitate to put any wax or sealant on a freshly painted vehicle for at least 30-45 days, if not longer. Full curing of paint takes about that long, depending on climate of course. That is coming from family members of mine who own body shops, so I tend to believe them. Factory paint could be different or more cured when it comes out, but I'd wait just to be safe.
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Anything the dealer offers you for a "cleaning" or waxing is going to be crap. Do it yourself, more importantly, learn how to do it so you can keep the truck protected for years and years to come and you will save lots of money in the process.

Also I would hesitate to put any wax or sealant on a freshly painted vehicle for at least 30-45 days, if not longer. Full curing of paint takes about that long, depending on climate of course. That is coming from family members of mine who own body shops, so I tend to believe them. Factory paint could be different or more cured when it comes out, but I'd wait just to be safe.
What I was considering isn't something offered by the dealer. I've actually never had anything like that offered by the dealer. I've heard that before about waiting with paints, but it was always right after getting a vehicle out of the body shop. Makes me think it doesn't really apply to factory painted vehicles, but rather vehicles that were just painted after an accident. I had read on one of the detailing forums that it's safe to wax a vehicle as soon as you get it in your driveway. It was posted on the internet, so it's gotta be true, right?
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Go to autogeek.com, a detailing forum, and a good one and ask around about what you're
thinking about doing. Those guys have probably heard of it.
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Cool, thanks. I'll do that.
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Never get a dealer applied "sealant." I work at a dealer that uses one called "Zylon." They charge $695 per car. It costs $40 for a bottle of it...and you can do about 10 cars with one bottle. Basically you are just handing over $700 for no reason.

Also this stuff does not work. I have repainted...yes, repainted cars for water spots caused by the "sealant" failing.

And yes, you can wax a car from factory right away.

If it was repainted after a collision, then you must wait anywhere between 30-90 days depending on the paint manufacturer.
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Hi there,

My suggestion is to do the following in order:
1 wash your truck. Even it is new.
2 clay bar the truck. I use mother's kit, but you have plenty options to choose from.
3 sealant 1 or 2very thin coat
4 wax. 3 coats, I use Autoglym HD Wax

Depending on the color of ur truck, there are some variation in the products you should use. The procedure is pretty universal.
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Having worked for First Place Finish and Total Plus i can tell you firsthand that the stuff doesn't work. Basically you are paying for a service, not an actual product. If you buy the package, you basically get a warranty that says if you should acquire water spots or acid rain spots after the sealer is applied, you can get your vehicle buffed out for free as long as the contract is valid. seeing how most dealerships now employ high school kids or kids just out of high school, they don't care if they wax/seal a vehicle or not. basically they slap a sticker on the glass saying they did it and hope the customer buys it. i would never purchase this sort of thing!

as for waxing/sealing a new vehicle, feel free to do it. factory paint is baked and by the time you actually get your vehicle it is fully cured. if it is a re-paint or repair, then 30-90 days is the waiting period.
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