New P rated Duratracs worth considering?
#21
Senior Member
Same tread pattern tire between the P metric and LT I can't see that there'd be much of a difference in mileage. The LT might be a couple pounds heavier but can also be run at higher pressure to reduce rolling resistance. Now the difference between a highway P metric and a all terrain LT might be more noticable.
#22
To the OP:
I don't have first hand expierence with the Duratracs but I have expierence with the load range P & E on F150's. Our work has 5 F150's with E's and 1 with P's.
My thoughts are the E's are great if you drive lots of gravel here in Iowa(we do). The pickup with P's gets flats VERY often. I have P's on my personal truck and the ride difference between my work truck and personal truck is night and day. I will be putting P rated Michelin M/S2 on my personal truck when its time to replace.
My advice would be the P's, now we could argue the need for agressive tread but I dont' think thats what you were asking.
Hope I could help!
I don't have first hand expierence with the Duratracs but I have expierence with the load range P & E on F150's. Our work has 5 F150's with E's and 1 with P's.
My thoughts are the E's are great if you drive lots of gravel here in Iowa(we do). The pickup with P's gets flats VERY often. I have P's on my personal truck and the ride difference between my work truck and personal truck is night and day. I will be putting P rated Michelin M/S2 on my personal truck when its time to replace.
My advice would be the P's, now we could argue the need for agressive tread but I dont' think thats what you were asking.
Hope I could help!
#25
As an update, I made the decision to go with the p-metric Duratracs in 275/60/20 over an LT variant (275/65/20 and 285/60/20). Importantly, the p-metrics have more carrying capacity than even our trucks do, so the extra weight capacity of the LTs was unnecessary.
Some have made comments that the p-metrics are not as aggressive as the LTs. That's true, but the difference is not significant enough to drive the decision (I had a tire shop put the p-metric and LT side by side. My observations are at post 31 here: https://www.f150forum.com/f38/p-rate...4/#post3516159).
From my view, here were the pros and cons of p-metric vs LT:
P275/60r20
Pros:
· Cheaper than LT (about $85/tire cheaper than 275/65 and $125/tire than 285/60)
· Light 46 pounds (2 pounds less than stock)
· Less effect on gas mileage and ride.
· Runs w/o level.
Cons:
· Least aggressive tread
· Shallower tread (2/32 less tread)
· Not as strong, may be more prone to puncture and flats
· Smallest height (33 inches)
LT285/60r20 and LT275/65r20
Pros:
· Stronger tire, less prone to flats and punctures
· Carries more weight.
· More aggressive tread
· Taller, may fill the truck better if leveled (285/60 = 33.5” and 275/65=34”)
Cons:
· More expensive
· Heavier tires. (285/60 = 59lbs and 275/65 = 57 pounds)
· Firmer/harsher ride because the tires are stronger. More wear/tear on truck.
· Because heavier, likely lose 1-2 mpg
As noted above, for me tread design and carrying capacity really became non-issues between these tires. I focused on whether the benefit of a stronger LT tire offset its negative characteristics (mpg loss, stiffer, slower acceleration/braking). For me, it did not and the cheaper tires were a bonus.
I have no rubbing even when cranked in reverse. The tires ride great and I didn't notice much loss in terms of acceleration/braking. Although I don't have a lot of miles on them yet (60), average MPG has remained the same. There is a little hum from the tires, which I like. The tires were installed with 36PSI, which felt too low when decelerating to a stop. I bumped the PSI to 42 and they feel much better.
If I end up with a bunch of flats when hunting in the fall my tune might change, but for now I feel that I made the right decision. Now the questions is whether to level or leave it stuffed. Opinions?
Sorry for all the words - I thought all of this may help someone else making a similar decision.
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Some have made comments that the p-metrics are not as aggressive as the LTs. That's true, but the difference is not significant enough to drive the decision (I had a tire shop put the p-metric and LT side by side. My observations are at post 31 here: https://www.f150forum.com/f38/p-rate...4/#post3516159).
From my view, here were the pros and cons of p-metric vs LT:
P275/60r20
Pros:
· Cheaper than LT (about $85/tire cheaper than 275/65 and $125/tire than 285/60)
· Light 46 pounds (2 pounds less than stock)
· Less effect on gas mileage and ride.
· Runs w/o level.
Cons:
· Least aggressive tread
· Shallower tread (2/32 less tread)
· Not as strong, may be more prone to puncture and flats
· Smallest height (33 inches)
LT285/60r20 and LT275/65r20
Pros:
· Stronger tire, less prone to flats and punctures
· Carries more weight.
· More aggressive tread
· Taller, may fill the truck better if leveled (285/60 = 33.5” and 275/65=34”)
Cons:
· More expensive
· Heavier tires. (285/60 = 59lbs and 275/65 = 57 pounds)
· Firmer/harsher ride because the tires are stronger. More wear/tear on truck.
· Because heavier, likely lose 1-2 mpg
As noted above, for me tread design and carrying capacity really became non-issues between these tires. I focused on whether the benefit of a stronger LT tire offset its negative characteristics (mpg loss, stiffer, slower acceleration/braking). For me, it did not and the cheaper tires were a bonus.
I have no rubbing even when cranked in reverse. The tires ride great and I didn't notice much loss in terms of acceleration/braking. Although I don't have a lot of miles on them yet (60), average MPG has remained the same. There is a little hum from the tires, which I like. The tires were installed with 36PSI, which felt too low when decelerating to a stop. I bumped the PSI to 42 and they feel much better.
If I end up with a bunch of flats when hunting in the fall my tune might change, but for now I feel that I made the right decision. Now the questions is whether to level or leave it stuffed. Opinions?
Sorry for all the words - I thought all of this may help someone else making a similar decision.
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Last edited by Remi; 06-01-2014 at 08:42 PM.
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Remi...truck looks great.
#30
Senior Member
Hello fellow Iowans!
Anyways, I was just looking at tires yesterday and this is what I've decided on.
http://www.bigotires.com/Tire-Detail...GRAPPLER/13354
Good price, local (no shipping), great treadwear based on reviews, and a very decent (read beefy) look on the OEM 20s.
BTW great looking truck Remi! Looks just like mine except I've got the blue variety.
Anyways, I was just looking at tires yesterday and this is what I've decided on.
http://www.bigotires.com/Tire-Detail...GRAPPLER/13354
Good price, local (no shipping), great treadwear based on reviews, and a very decent (read beefy) look on the OEM 20s.
BTW great looking truck Remi! Looks just like mine except I've got the blue variety.