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Old 06-14-2016, 08:37 AM
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Despite all these nay-sayers...

I've run DDM Kits in both my 2011 and my 2014.

I moved from DDM Kits to this kit:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Better quality, for roughly the same price.

If you have stock halogen bulbs and housings, this kit is all you need
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Originally Posted by The_YETI
Despite all these nay-sayers...

I've run DDM Kits in both my 2011 and my 2014.

I moved from DDM Kits to this kit:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Better quality, for roughly the same price.
And they are still illegal junk. You can label us, but you can't prove us wrong.
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Originally Posted by MurderFX
weren't all 2013 orm projectors hid?
oem projector are hid, yes. D3S setup.
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Originally Posted by eyecandynsx
oem projector are hid, yes. D3S setup.
then there wouldn't be a halogen set up in the projector housing.
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Originally Posted by STingray1300
And they are still illegal junk. You can label us, but you can't prove us wrong.
I'm not trying to prove anyone right or wrong lol, of course everyone would rather do it correctly and get projector housings. But, not everyone can afford OEM or have the time/ability to do a retrofit setup.

Just trying to give the guy the information he asked for
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Originally Posted by The_YETI
I'm not trying to prove anyone right or wrong lol, of course everyone would rather do it correctly and get projector housings. But, not everyone can afford OEM or have the time/ability to do a retrofit setup.

Just trying to give the guy the information he asked for
If you just have to do a drop in PNP HID kit I would recommend going LED over HID. They make some kits now that can be adjusted in the housing and have built in shielding. Now they aren't as cheap as a PNP HID kit but they will disperse light in a halogen housing much better.
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Folks, if you don't have the money or the propensity to do a job right, then you shouldn't do it at all. There's a reason it's illegal to install HID capsules *and* LED bulbs in a housing designed for halogen bulbs... they cannot control the light output.

Are you going to get a ticket (as you should)? Not likely, as most LEOs aren't trained or even observant enough to note the stark violation.

Are you going to make it very uncomfortable for oncoming traffic, potentially causing a very real danger to them and/or yourself? Likely. Very likely. factory HIDs are bad enough if not adjusted properly. But 175 watts of poorly aimed scattered HID light is extremely dangerous.



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Originally Posted by STingray1300
Folks, if you don't have the money or the propensity to do a job right, then you shouldn't do it at all. There's a reason it's illegal to install HID capsules *and* LED bulbs in a housing designed for halogen bulbs... they cannot control the light output.

Are you going to get a ticket (as you should)? Not likely, as most LEOs aren't trained or even observant enough to note the stark violation.

Are you going to make it very uncomfortable for oncoming traffic, potentially causing a very real danger to them and/or yourself? Likely. Very likely. factory HIDs are bad enough if not adjusted properly. But 175 watts of poorly aimed scattered HID light is extremely dangerous.


Now let's not forget that any modification to a DOT approved light other than how it came from the manufacturer is illegal. This includes projector retrofits. Having said that, a projector retrofit will correctly disperse the light transmitted. Philips is designing drop in LED bulb replacements for halogen housings though currently only approved for overseas but it will happen. Other LED vendors are getting good reviews on hidplanet as well for their designs and adjustability. So I wouldn't totally condemn everything other than a projector retrofit. I would say the cheap HID and LED PNP kits are not worth the hassle and prove to be the most unreliable as well. With headlights, it should be safety, performance and reliability first and foremost. Looks should be a byproduct, not the purpose.
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As I am new to the headlight upgrade thing, what would be so wrong with using the H11 X-tremeVision led fog lamp bulb for the headlights. I would think an H11 is an H11
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Originally Posted by sgtowing
As I am new to the headlight upgrade thing, what would be so wrong with using the H11 X-tremeVision led fog lamp bulb for the headlights. I would think an H11 is an H11
You don't post anything about your truck (year/trim). The 2015s use an H11 (2009-2014 - H13/9008). The H11 is a so-so bulb. But it's perfectly OK to upgrade a halogen bulb with a more efficient halogen bulb (like OSRAM +90 bulbs, or Phillips +60 or more). You should see a difference.

The fog lights however, use a 9140 or 9145 bulb from 1999 - on. Those are 40w and 45w respectively.

What is at issue here is under-educated and misinformed, or just plain "I don't care about anyone else or the law" folks who think by putting massive amounts of light out of a headlight by means of an incorrect light source is going to be just fine. Doing so is the same as putting on someone else's prescription glasses: you can't see correctly. Same with HID or LED bulbs/capsules in halogen housing. The optics are not correct and WILL (not might) cause some degree of the above photo, causing a potentially very dangerous situation for all parties on the road.


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