Originally Posted by Pwsfinest

HAH! Feel the love...

I had nothing but a hood switch when I started, so no fobs (other than entry built into key) and no antennas. First (RFR series 100 style) antenna went in glove box in the bracket above the opening. Second (series 200 style) antenna is currently just sitting in the glove box, but is designed to have the cable run up the pillar and the antenna stuck to the glass as high as possible to increase range. I'm going to see what kind of range I get with it inside the dash. The second antenna does just plug into the RMST 200. There is a plug with like 5 or 6 pins in a straight line. Just simply plugged it in there, cycled the key in the ignition 6 times, pushed the button on the fob to program, and whalah! I only have the one fob, since I wanted to test that this setup will work without buying more fobs (at the low low rip off price of $65 each!)... According to the manual "the system has the ability to operate from up to 8 remote controls." I will never have that many and that's probably just what the RMST can store, so you could probably have 8 fobs AND the cellular which allows as many phones with the app installed as you want. Even in a fleet environment, I can't imagine needing 8 fobs. Now that I know it works, I'll order another one for the wife.

The only thing I'm still curious about is if a series 100 fob would have worked with my setup before adding the series 200 antenna and fob. That's the only reason I can think that you would need the RFR series 100 antenna in the first place. I prefer longer range and the two-way features of what I have, but I'm always curious about cool things like this...

Originally Posted by mamonti

Danny I assume you have the MyKey system so you can program up to 8 keys but for some reason only 4 fobs! I think the programming that he is talking about is for the remote start. They have to be programmed under the RKE feature which programs the BCM to accept the lock / unlock. Now the question is does the 200 series work the same as the 100, meaning you have to push the lock button first? If so then it should NOT work without having the fob programmed!

Originally Posted by dannytexas

So you didn't have remote start but did have a key with built on fob which would remotely unlock and lock the doors correct? Or was just a bare key altogether?

I was thinking the RFR series antenna since plugged into the TPMS was also used to read the tire sensors for pressure.
But if you didn't have the antenna and had TPMS then by default it sounds like the RFR 100 series is in fact only for a 100 series fob and remote start..
Since you don't have a 100 series RMST module I'm thinking the 100 series FOB wouldn't work in your system.
Why did you originally add the RFR 100 series antenna?
Couldn't you have just done series 200 long range antenna, RMST 200 series, 200 series FOB, remote access RMU and have been complete?

Originally Posted by Pwsfinest

Correct, I only had the key with lock/unlock/panic built in and a hood switch. When I originally went to the dealer after installing the RMST and RMU, he plugged in the computer to activate the remote start menu and it gave an error. It wouldn't even allow him to activate the menu without the antenna, but we don't know why. He even called the hotline and the tech on the phone told him he needed it. Since it plugs into the TPM and not the RMST, I'm guessing I'd have still needed this antenna even if I went with the 200 instead of the Remote Access since you can't even activate the menu without it. I had TPMS before this, so the antenna has nothing to do with that.

The TPMS connection is used only because it's already directly connected to the BCM.

Originally Posted by dannytexas

Good explanation, I understand now.
The 100 series antenna was needed only to activate the remote start menu. So essentially not being used as an antenna but to close a loop in the system to allow menu activation.
I don't see why the 200 RMST and antenna install wouldn't do that as well but I suppose that scenario wasn't programmed into the activation process at Ford. Its looking for something plugged into the TPMS before activating which like you pointed out the 200 series antenna doesn't do.
Too bad the tech couldn't temporarily plug one in the TPMS, activate the remote start menu and then remove. Its basically a piece of dead weight for you.

Good stuff but I'm about remote started out. Time to go off the grid and start pounding the turkey with the fan.
Have an awesome Thanksgiving !

Originally Posted by mamonti

I am getting confused again,, which isn't that hard after a night like last night but...... lets me see if I don't understand correctly.
if I were to go buy a 200 series remote start and installed it are you saying that the tech couldn't activate it so it will not remote start? cause that can't be true at all... The y cable is a splitter so it is going through the TPMS either way. the y cable wouldn't be needed unless it needs to be plugged into two units. So It was my plan on keeping the 100 series and I was thinking it would no longer work so I am pleased to read that it still does that way I have two key/fobs I can use along with the phone!

Originally Posted by dannytexas

Do you have remote start already? If so you have a 100 series module and antenna so adding the 200 with Y cable won't change the 100 series functionality.
Can you access the remote start menu in your DIC? If yes don't worry.
If NO than they means you do not have remote start now and at least the antenna from a 100 series module will need to be added for the tech at Ford to activate the menu in your DIC.
Does that make more sense?
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