F-150 = half ton pickup
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Grumpy Old Man
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F-150 = half ton pickup
My new F-150 SuperCrew Lariat EcoBoost 4x2 with 6.5' bed, Leer camper shell, and Rhino spray-in bedliner is a true "half-ton" pickup, as defined back in the early 1900s. Back then, a half ton pickup had a payload of around 1,000 pounds (a half ton) plus driver.
GVWR = 7,100 pounds
Weight per CAT scale with a tank full of gas and nothing in it but a 200-pound driver = 6,040.
Available payload for passengers, tools, floor jack, cooler, and hitch weight = 1,060 pounds. That's about as close to a half-ton as you can get. When I add Darling Wife, some tools and a floor jack plus 800 pounds of hitch weight from my 7,000 pound cargo trailer, I'll probably be overloaded over the GVWR of the pickup.
The same truck but with the HD payload pkg has a GVWR of 8,200 pounds and weighs about the same, so it has a reasonable payload of 2,160 pounds. That's more like what I would expect from a modern half-ton pickup.
GVWR = 7,100 pounds
Weight per CAT scale with a tank full of gas and nothing in it but a 200-pound driver = 6,040.
Available payload for passengers, tools, floor jack, cooler, and hitch weight = 1,060 pounds. That's about as close to a half-ton as you can get. When I add Darling Wife, some tools and a floor jack plus 800 pounds of hitch weight from my 7,000 pound cargo trailer, I'll probably be overloaded over the GVWR of the pickup.
The same truck but with the HD payload pkg has a GVWR of 8,200 pounds and weighs about the same, so it has a reasonable payload of 2,160 pounds. That's more like what I would expect from a modern half-ton pickup.
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I'd think with 50 years of towing, you would have done a little more research prior to buying your truck.
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Sorry to hear of the disappointing payload numbers. This is exactly why I bought the 8200# GVWR Screw.
The door jamb sticker in mine says 2145lbs max payload... I have not weighed it yet to verify.
The door jamb sticker in mine says 2145lbs max payload... I have not weighed it yet to verify.
#4
Your lariat package and leer canopy did you in. I have a 2010 f150 xlt 4x4 supercrew 5.4 3.73 maxtow with a payload of 1857lbs. 7650# GVWR. It's all in how you order it, or pick it out at the dealer. Could be worse, heres an article about an f250 diesel King Ranch that only has a 1972# capacity.
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/05...ty-part-1.html
http://news.pickuptrucks.com/2010/05...ty-part-1.html
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The Ranger lives on?
Everyone says the Ranger got discontinued, but it sounds like you just bought one.
Ok seriously: this is one of the byproducts of having the ability to configure an F150 a hundred different ways. Some will be lean hauling machines. Otherwise will be loaded cowboy Cadillacs with only a small amount of spare capacity.
If you don't like your truck, I'm sure someone with an XL work truck HD package will be willing to trade!
Ok seriously: this is one of the byproducts of having the ability to configure an F150 a hundred different ways. Some will be lean hauling machines. Otherwise will be loaded cowboy Cadillacs with only a small amount of spare capacity.
If you don't like your truck, I'm sure someone with an XL work truck HD package will be willing to trade!
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LOL, cowboy Cadilliac!
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The most I hauled in my previous 2010 4x2 4.6L 2-valve STX was 89/100 of a ton. It was a half ton rcsb F-150 ... no sway ... no roll ... no issues. Of course I drove the 7 miles home very slowly. With my new truck, I wouldn't push it and never plan to load it with nearly a ton of rock like I did my 2010.
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Grumpy Old Man
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6040 truck with driver, cap, bedliner, and full of gas
300 wife, pets, cooler, tools, jack
720 hitch weight (12% of 6,000)
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7060 GVW is barely within the 7,100 GVWR
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6040 truck with driver
300 wife, pets, cooler, tools, jack
6000 gross trailer weight
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12,340 GCW is well within 14,000 GCWR
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Since 95 percent of the miles on this pickup will probably be without a trailer, I chose the barely adequate GVWR in order to get the 3.15 axle ratio that should result in over 20 MPG. That extra thousand pounds of payload capacity with 8,200 GVWR requires a 3.73 LS axle that will cost about two MPG when not towing.
#10
Just don't get why people worry about 1-2 gals in a truck, espacialy a full size truck. Whats it reall add up to anyway.
15000 miles a year
20mpg @3.25 gal=$2437.25
18mpg @3.25 gal=$2708.33
Difference of $277.08 a year
$22.59 a month. I would give that up and do so my truck can do what it's intended to do. Not just be a under powered SUV with a bed. If people are so tight that $22.59 makes or breaks them each month, maybe they should be driving a Prius.
15000 miles a year
20mpg @3.25 gal=$2437.25
18mpg @3.25 gal=$2708.33
Difference of $277.08 a year
$22.59 a month. I would give that up and do so my truck can do what it's intended to do. Not just be a under powered SUV with a bed. If people are so tight that $22.59 makes or breaks them each month, maybe they should be driving a Prius.