Wanted33

I agree. My salesguy ask if I might consider an EB truck. I told him that what I needed in a truck would not require one. So, I went with the 5.0L. In my mind one should do a bit of research before they buy a truck. The information is out there, you just gotta let it in.

I realize the for some the EB is not getting the listed mpg's. But, I can lower the mpg's on my 5.0 really quick. The weight of the right foot coincides greatly with the mpg's one will obtain.

RLXXI

You do now because I went in looking for the 5.0, options 2nd. Matter of fact the only options I cared about was A/C and a radio and of course something I could afford. I was shocked at everything that came standard much less the other goodies my truck came with.





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RLXXI

You will see Starbucks parking lots filled with those someday.

Wanted33

Just more gas for us.....

11screw50

I know how it works and I stand by my statement. They are not the same thing (as you just pointed out, one is derived from the other) and while the Toyota 5.7 generates less torque than the EB, it also generates more power. Had you used the correct word, I would have had one less issue with your initial post.

s_vares

Don't worry, I hate being wrong too. I can admit it

11screw50

Show me where I am wrong and I will admit it.

11screw50

I stand corrected, I should have clarified that no one who I have know personally has gone in search of one engine or the other as either engine suits their needs. Here however, many people (possibly even most) wanted one engine or the other.

Bryce919er

All a turbo or supercharger does is make a small displacement engine act like a big displacement engine. Instead of relying on raw cubes to draw in air it uses a fan to force it in. Bottom line is the air does you no good without additional juice so once you add that in one way of getting wind in your face is no different than the other. What the left leaning crowd does not understand, & unfortunatley they are the ones setting the rules, is that it is all about getting oxygen to hookup with carbon & there is a reality of to what extent that can happen & even if it were perfect it would not be good enough for that crowd.

You want V8 power, you will get V8 fuel economy is exactly right. If anyone thinks they would be making 400+ lb-ft of torque & just barley sipping the sauce is delusional although I can see they were misled by snake oil salesman with the way Ford & the media describe the point of turbos. The only way to get V6 fuel economy in an ecoboost is to stay out of boost & good luck with that--then engine will behave like the small V6 it is instead of the V8 grunt it is capable of. Think of the boost gauge as an inverted MPG gauge.

engineermike

[MENTION=60319]Bryce[/MENTION], though I agree with some of what you said (especially the political view), there is such a thing as efficiency. BSFC is the preferred method of gauging efficiency of an internal combustion engine, though % thermal efficiency makes more sense to people. The gas engines in our trucks are less than 40% efficient. So, it is technically possible to get upwards of 700 hp from the same amount of fuel we make only 365 hp on, though it would take some quite different and unconventional ($$$) technologies.