Driver's seat is painfully uncomfortable...
10-23-2011, 11:57 AM
#31
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I had an issue in my 2010 with the foam collapsing in my drivers seat. It felt like I was sitting in a bucket and it made my legs hurt.
I took the truck to an aftermarket company and had them re pack it. After two tries they got it right and it's much better. I also take my wallet out and it helps.
-Jeff
I took the truck to an aftermarket company and had them re pack it. After two tries they got it right and it's much better. I also take my wallet out and it helps.
-Jeff
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10-23-2011, 12:10 PM
#32
Nathan
I had an issue in my 2010 with the foam collapsing in my drivers seat. It felt like I was sitting in a bucket and it made my legs hurt.
I took the truck to an aftermarket company and had them re pack it. After two tries they got it right and it's much better. I also take my wallet out and it helps.
-Jeff
I took the truck to an aftermarket company and had them re pack it. After two tries they got it right and it's much better. I also take my wallet out and it helps.
-Jeff
10-23-2011, 01:00 PM
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Like ShortRide I too found that removing my wallet makes for a comfortable ride. I guess it's because I now have my father's wallet, over filled with "stuff". My problem is that my wife is almost a foot shorter than me. If she drives I spend a lot of time getting back to the comfort zone.
10-23-2011, 03:01 PM
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'11 FX4 SCREW 5.ohh!
Looks like I may be the biggest here, 6'2" 375 lbs. I drove my new FX4 home from the dealer last week (180 miles). And didn't notice any leg pains. I usually do. I also always drive long distances (1 hr+) with my wallet out of my back pocket.
Going on a 5+ hr trip next month for Thanksgiving, we'll see how it goes. So far my wife and I are loving the leather power seats.
Going on a 5+ hr trip next month for Thanksgiving, we'll see how it goes. So far my wife and I are loving the leather power seats.
10-23-2011, 08:30 PM
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I noticed leg leg pain after reading these posts. I'm 6' 200 lbs. I only notice it on the freeway, when I've been sitting for 20 minutes or so. I've never noticed this in any other vehicle I've driven. I've got the eco lariat supercrew . . . well not right now since it's in the shop because the transmission locked up in 5th gear.
10-23-2011, 09:17 PM
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The subject of uncomfortable drivers seat has been raised starting in 2009 when Ford started using "Soy" based foam. Why?...because they are saving millions in manufacturing cost not using so much oil to make the previous type foam. This is per Ford.
Now..I have a 2010 XLT with a drivers seat that I can't spend 20 minutes in with out it hurting. It feels like I am sitting on the open end of a 5 gallon bucket. Removing my billfold helped but I never had this problem in my 2003 XLT. I found out that the Dodge drivers seat was very comfortable and went out to find out the difference between the Ford and Dodge seats.
In my research I found an article about automobile foam seats and long story short the guy that wrote the article not only makes seats for different company's but does testing and works closely with the Ford Comfort Group. I didn't say he designs them, he test them and makes them per the car manufacture specs.
After reading my e-mail he went out and got a Dodge and Ford seat, tore them down to the frame, did measurements, cushion hardness test and displacement test of the foam and springs.
His findings are that the Dodge has stiffer suspension ( more supportive springs) as well as almost 30% thicker foam where your butt rest.( almost a full inch) Dodge ties their springs together with a brown paper covered ( to prevent squeaking) wire and crimps them to the existing springs across left to right looking at the top of the springs. This allows them to be more supportive. Ford does not do this allowing the springs to give more under weight. The Ford cushion is harder than the Dodge and is made that way because it is thinner.
I don't know how to post pictures but he sent me a picture of the Ford springs and marked where I should attach the additional support wires. It made a big difference on how much the seat sagged. That still leaves me with the thin hard Ford cushion. I currently have a piece of 1 1/2 inch thick #35 density super foam, 11 inches wide and 7 inches deep, laid between the springs and the bottom of the cushion, at the back,which has me almost where I want to be.
The other option as someone suggested would be to have a seat shop make a duplicate cushion of better foam OR ( and I'm thinking about this) buy a Dodge cushion, since I know how it feels, about $150 and have a seat shop fit it to the Ford Frame.
Sorry to be so long winded but I hope this helps. You can buy the support wire and crimps at an automotive upholstery shop and do that part yourself. If I knew how to post a picture of what he sent and how mine turned out I would. I am going around tomorrow to a couple of shops and visit with them about adapting the Dodge cushion, upholstery work required and cost. Good luck with your seats.
P.S. If you want to send me an e-mail, I will e-mail you back with the pictures and instructions he sent.
e-mail to jlineman@gmail.com
Now..I have a 2010 XLT with a drivers seat that I can't spend 20 minutes in with out it hurting. It feels like I am sitting on the open end of a 5 gallon bucket. Removing my billfold helped but I never had this problem in my 2003 XLT. I found out that the Dodge drivers seat was very comfortable and went out to find out the difference between the Ford and Dodge seats.
In my research I found an article about automobile foam seats and long story short the guy that wrote the article not only makes seats for different company's but does testing and works closely with the Ford Comfort Group. I didn't say he designs them, he test them and makes them per the car manufacture specs.
After reading my e-mail he went out and got a Dodge and Ford seat, tore them down to the frame, did measurements, cushion hardness test and displacement test of the foam and springs.
His findings are that the Dodge has stiffer suspension ( more supportive springs) as well as almost 30% thicker foam where your butt rest.( almost a full inch) Dodge ties their springs together with a brown paper covered ( to prevent squeaking) wire and crimps them to the existing springs across left to right looking at the top of the springs. This allows them to be more supportive. Ford does not do this allowing the springs to give more under weight. The Ford cushion is harder than the Dodge and is made that way because it is thinner.
I don't know how to post pictures but he sent me a picture of the Ford springs and marked where I should attach the additional support wires. It made a big difference on how much the seat sagged. That still leaves me with the thin hard Ford cushion. I currently have a piece of 1 1/2 inch thick #35 density super foam, 11 inches wide and 7 inches deep, laid between the springs and the bottom of the cushion, at the back,which has me almost where I want to be.
The other option as someone suggested would be to have a seat shop make a duplicate cushion of better foam OR ( and I'm thinking about this) buy a Dodge cushion, since I know how it feels, about $150 and have a seat shop fit it to the Ford Frame.
Sorry to be so long winded but I hope this helps. You can buy the support wire and crimps at an automotive upholstery shop and do that part yourself. If I knew how to post a picture of what he sent and how mine turned out I would. I am going around tomorrow to a couple of shops and visit with them about adapting the Dodge cushion, upholstery work required and cost. Good luck with your seats.
P.S. If you want to send me an e-mail, I will e-mail you back with the pictures and instructions he sent.
e-mail to jlineman@gmail.com
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10-23-2011, 11:09 PM
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The subject of uncomfortable drivers seat has been raised starting in 2009 when Ford started using "Soy" based foam. Why?...because they are saving millions in manufacturing cost not using so much oil to make the previous type foam. This is per Ford.
Now..I have a 2010 XLT with a drivers seat that I can't spend 20 minutes in with out it hurting. It feels like I am sitting on the open end of a 5 gallon bucket. Removing my billfold helped but I never had this problem in my 2003 XLT. I found out that the Dodge drivers seat was very comfortable and went out to find out the difference between the Ford and Dodge seats.
In my research I found an article about automobile foam seats and long story short the guy that wrote the article not only makes seats for different company's but does testing and works closely with the Ford Comfort Group. I didn't say he designs them, he test them and makes them per the car manufacture specs.
After reading my e-mail he went out and got a Dodge and Ford seat, tore them down to the frame, did measurements, cushion hardness test and displacement test of the foam and springs.
His findings are that the Dodge has stiffer suspension ( more supportive springs) as well as almost 30% thicker foam where your butt rest.( almost a full inch) Dodge ties their springs together with a brown paper covered ( to prevent squeaking) wire and crimps them to the existing springs across left to right looking at the top of the springs. This allows them to be more supportive. Ford does not do this allowing the springs to give more under weight. The Ford cushion is harder than the Dodge and is made that way because it is thinner.
I don't know how to post pictures but he sent me a picture of the Ford springs and marked where I should attach the additional support wires. It made a big difference on how much the seat sagged. That still leaves me with the thin hard Ford cushion. I currently have a piece of 1 1/2 inch thick #35 density super foam, 11 inches wide and 7 inches deep, laid between the springs and the bottom of the cushion, at the back,which has me almost where I want to be.
The other option as someone suggested would be to have a seat shop make a duplicate cushion of better foam OR ( and I'm thinking about this) buy a Dodge cushion, since I know how it feels, about $150 and have a seat shop fit it to the Ford Frame.
Sorry to be so long winded but I hope this helps. You can buy the support wire and crimps at an automotive upholstery shop and do that part yourself. If I knew how to post a picture of what he sent and how mine turned out I would. I am going around tomorrow to a couple of shops and visit with them about adapting the Dodge cushion, upholstery work required and cost. Good luck with your seats.
Now..I have a 2010 XLT with a drivers seat that I can't spend 20 minutes in with out it hurting. It feels like I am sitting on the open end of a 5 gallon bucket. Removing my billfold helped but I never had this problem in my 2003 XLT. I found out that the Dodge drivers seat was very comfortable and went out to find out the difference between the Ford and Dodge seats.
In my research I found an article about automobile foam seats and long story short the guy that wrote the article not only makes seats for different company's but does testing and works closely with the Ford Comfort Group. I didn't say he designs them, he test them and makes them per the car manufacture specs.
After reading my e-mail he went out and got a Dodge and Ford seat, tore them down to the frame, did measurements, cushion hardness test and displacement test of the foam and springs.
His findings are that the Dodge has stiffer suspension ( more supportive springs) as well as almost 30% thicker foam where your butt rest.( almost a full inch) Dodge ties their springs together with a brown paper covered ( to prevent squeaking) wire and crimps them to the existing springs across left to right looking at the top of the springs. This allows them to be more supportive. Ford does not do this allowing the springs to give more under weight. The Ford cushion is harder than the Dodge and is made that way because it is thinner.
I don't know how to post pictures but he sent me a picture of the Ford springs and marked where I should attach the additional support wires. It made a big difference on how much the seat sagged. That still leaves me with the thin hard Ford cushion. I currently have a piece of 1 1/2 inch thick #35 density super foam, 11 inches wide and 7 inches deep, laid between the springs and the bottom of the cushion, at the back,which has me almost where I want to be.
The other option as someone suggested would be to have a seat shop make a duplicate cushion of better foam OR ( and I'm thinking about this) buy a Dodge cushion, since I know how it feels, about $150 and have a seat shop fit it to the Ford Frame.
Sorry to be so long winded but I hope this helps. You can buy the support wire and crimps at an automotive upholstery shop and do that part yourself. If I knew how to post a picture of what he sent and how mine turned out I would. I am going around tomorrow to a couple of shops and visit with them about adapting the Dodge cushion, upholstery work required and cost. Good luck with your seats.
10-23-2011, 11:42 PM
#39
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Try tilting the seat slightly forward (lowering the front edge), or raising the front edge. Re-adjust the seat back so your sitting angle is fairly straight and tall. The many adjustments on the newer seats makes it easy for them to get into a bad position without you knowing it, compared to the old models that didn't tilt.
This is what I found out
10-24-2011, 12:21 AM
#40
Bought my truck back in June. At that time I felt the seat was very comfortable. However, riding it day after day has my left leg sore. I've tried almost every setting with the electric adjustments with no relief.
The seat appears to mount on dense plastic or steal bars under the foam. While sitting in the seat it feals like my left side it riding right on this bar. I'm 250lbs and 6 foot. Big guy, but not huge in my opinion. It probably doesn't help that it's the left side and that foam gets a little more work when I get in and out of the truck.
Has anyone else experienced this? Or has anyone took these seats apart? If I reach under the right side of the foam I can feel the bar. I'm curious if I could load some dense material on top of this bar to ease the pain. Or put some more foam in the left side of the seat. Not sure what to do at this point.
The last thing I thought about was not liking the seat or having trouble in it. I have own 10 vehicles and have never has an issue like this. There just isn't a lot of foam between the driver and the bar IMO.
Any advice is helpful. Thanks.
The seat appears to mount on dense plastic or steal bars under the foam. While sitting in the seat it feals like my left side it riding right on this bar. I'm 250lbs and 6 foot. Big guy, but not huge in my opinion. It probably doesn't help that it's the left side and that foam gets a little more work when I get in and out of the truck.
Has anyone else experienced this? Or has anyone took these seats apart? If I reach under the right side of the foam I can feel the bar. I'm curious if I could load some dense material on top of this bar to ease the pain. Or put some more foam in the left side of the seat. Not sure what to do at this point.
The last thing I thought about was not liking the seat or having trouble in it. I have own 10 vehicles and have never has an issue like this. There just isn't a lot of foam between the driver and the bar IMO.
Any advice is helpful. Thanks.
At any-rate, lots of people rebuild seats to suit. Much denser foam covered by softer foam for comfort and such.