IronJoce

The gas tank and a 150lbs driver is already calculated if you look at the sticker on the driver door... I wouldn't worry much about being 50lbs over, depending on where you're going, how far it is and how often you go there ;-)

Cheers

Ranchwoo

If the payload weight includes a full tank of gas and a driver that would gain me about 308 lbs and I would be well under the pin weight I calculated.

Someone mentioned poor gas mileage. How poor is poor? Last summer I drive a 2100 mile trip and averaged 9.5 MPG pulling almost 6000 lbs. That included mountains, hills and flat land. I try to keep the speed under 65. We took a short trip pulling the RV to Orlando on the turnpike and only averaged 6.5 MPG at 65 and above. Now, that is lousy gas mileage. We like secondary roads so we are able to keep under interstate speeds most of the time. I fee a lot better now.

Ranchwoo

IronJoce, I looked at Flagstaff and did not see the pin weight you had mentioned.

"I'm pulling a "special edition" Flagstaff 2012 8528BHSS with my EB. I'm saying special edition because this is a 2012 8528BHSS but with the same floor plan as the 2009."

Is it listed in the 2012 floorplans? I see the 8528RKWS at 1046 lbs dry pin weight.

IronJoce

You have to look for 2008 Flagstaff 8528BHSS in google. Depending where you look, you'll see pin weight from 1000 - 1200lbs (mine is 1075 according to the scale) You will not find it on the Forestriver site

I have the same exact floor plan as the 2008 - 2009 but in a 2012 model

IronJoce

I did anything between 11 - 13 mpg with my old trailer. Didn't tow my 5th wheel a lot yet but I'm getting 10 - 11

smokeywren

Dry pin weight is useless info. First of all, they're usually understated, and second off all, nobody tows a dry RV trailer.

Your most accurate estimate of pin weight for a 5er with GVWR of under about 11,000 pounds is 17 percent of the GVWR of the 5er. Some 5ers have less pin weight than that, and some have more, but 17% is a good estimate to use for matching trailer to tow vehicle.

And use the GVWR of the trailer as the wet and loaded weight of the trailer. The first trip it might be less than that. Maybe even the second trip. But by the third long trip you'll be trying to figure out what not to take with you this time so the CAT scale doesn't show you're overloaded.

LWFord12

17percent is a little much? You really need to weigh the truck and trailer at a scale. my trailer with my old truck was about 11 percent of the total weight. It really depends on the design of the trailer. Ie tank placement and axle placement. If I fill my water it takes weight of the pin because it is behind the trailer axle. Also you can add more items to the rear of the rv to help out if you are close. like few hundred pounds I bet you can make it work but I think you should have no issue being a couple hundred pounds under.

flixden

My truck (see sig) with a full tank of gas (no driver) weighs almost exactly 6,000 lbs (measured). My payload sticker says 2,238 lbs. I have added seat covers, bed rails, line-x, weathertech floor mats, truxedo LoPro.

SeaRayder

Here is my 5er:

It is a 2009 Keystone Springdale 280FWIKSSR
7323lbs Dry
10,034lbs GVWR
1185 Dry Hitch

My EB HD pulls it great! I use the Andersen Ultimate 5th wheel connection. It works awesome and saves over 100lbs of your payload!

-SeaRayder

SkiSmuggs

Look at the Jayco Eagle Superlite HT series or the Cougar High Country HE series for half ton tow-able fifth wheels. Also look at the Reese Sidewinder/Revolution pinbox for a lighter solution to short bed towing over the Pullrite Slider hitch.