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Old 02-09-2014, 06:40 PM   #41
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I swapped mine with 25w VisionX Light Cannons..
As a member of the see and swerve animal conservatory, what is their light pattern like?
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Old 02-09-2014, 07:43 PM   #42
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Okay everyone...lets be friends!!! I too didn't like the orangish hue the fog lights gave off and how the looked next to the factory HIDs. So...I bought and installed a set of PIAA fog light bulbs. Very bright and white (not blue) and best of all...they're DOT approved. I love them and they made a world of difference.
Would you think they match factory hid pretty well?
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Those are not fog lights. Go drive in fog with those and you will be driving blind. Fog lights are supposed to shine BELOW the fog to prevent light scatter. You just as well run your high beams. But I generally don't have a problem with people who put in these kinds of bulbs as long as they use them for off-road and when other drivers are not around. Using them in traffic would just be cruel.
I believe ford calls them driving lights not fog.

I used Rigid duellys and put them in place of the stock driving light. I added amber covers to use for fog and foul weather and they work wonders.

If I take them off, they throw light way down the road and to the sides which has saved me a couple times from deer.
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Would you think they match factory hid pretty well?
I would say so yes. Ive never taken any pictures but as for color, they are white. Its a pretty close match to color. The PIAAs are more money than say silverstars but will also last a heck of a lot longer and are brighter.
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And btw, as taken from about ANY driving manual you can find:

Avoid looking directly at the headlights of oncoming traffic. Instead, look down and to the right. You should be able to gaze at the white line on the side of the road or where the pavement meets the shoulder. Use the right side of the road for tracking your lane instead of the left side. You will still be able to see other vehicles with your peripheral vision but the glare won't bother you as much
How in the world are we supposed to look at the line on the side of the road when your POS, sorry, I mean your PNP kit glares all the way over there too?!

I'm not gonna strain my eyes just so you can run your ebay crap.
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There must be a market for them they sell out quick where I live. I run 6000k heads and fogs and have a rigid 20" the things that bother me are the logging trucks/oil haulers with led headlights
Oh my glare that's a lot of god!!
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I believe ford calls them driving lights not fog.

I used Rigid duellys and put them in place of the stock driving light. I added amber covers to use for fog and foul weather and they work wonders.

If I take them off, they throw light way down the road and to the sides which has saved me a couple times from deer.
Hi.

Hmmmm ... from the 2013 F150 Owner' s Guide, Page 95+:

Click the image to open in full size.

Uses OEM capped bulbs - lot of foreground light, little downrange light. Apart from the concession to colour (we are not European so we are not conditioned to Yellow lights - far too many ricers on this side of the pond, lol), adequate for use as a flog light. That is, until folks start stuffing aircraft landing lights into the openings

There are MUCH better ways to get downrange light than the 'fog' lights.


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How in the world are we supposed to look at the line on the side of the road when your POS, sorry, I mean your PNP kit glares all the way over there too?! I'm not gonna strain my eyes just so you can run your ebay crap.
For being a truck forum, there sure are a lot of whiny people here. Lol

You do realize that all HIDs are PnP right? The kits consist of the same components just one doesn't have projectors. You can have a few hundred dollar set up and not all are EBay.

Like I've said before, it is what it is. I'm blinded by idiots driving with their brights on more than HIDs. Also, the sharp cutoff creates a hazard if you want to get technical. When meeting a vehicle at a crest when you are below the cutoff, the glare is crazy but I glance to the side and go about my night.

So funny to me. "I'm a tough guy and drive a truck but my itty bitty eyes get hurt by some bright light for a couple seconds."
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Hi. Hmmmm ... from the 2013 F150 Owner' s Guide, Page 95+: Uses OEM capped bulbs - lot of foreground light, little downrange light. Apart from the concession to colour (we are not European so we are not conditioned to Yellow lights - far too many ricers on this side of the pond, lol), adequate for use as a flog light. That is, until folks start stuffing aircraft landing lights into the openings There are MUCH better ways to get downrange light than the 'fog' lights. MGD
My mistake, looked again and they are regarding these as fog which are improper.

I'm not worried about throwing light down the road, I wanted light down low that illuminates immediately in front and to the sides hence why i used a flood pattern and amber covers.

The stockers were not adequate in the conditions I've run but now my set up works great in fog, snow and rain.
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For being a truck forum, there sure are a lot of whiny people here. Lol

You do realize that all HIDs are PnP right? The kits consist of the same components just one doesn't have projectors. You can have a few hundred dollar set up and not all are EBay.

Like I've said before, it is what it is. I'm blinded by idiots driving with their brights on more than HIDs. Also, the sharp cutoff creates a hazard if you want to get technical. When meeting a vehicle at a crest when you are below the cutoff, the glare is crazy but I glance to the side and go about my night.

So funny to me. "I'm a tough guy and drive a truck but my itty bitty eyes get hurt by some bright light for a couple seconds."
Not all kits are from ebay, but they're still crap if used incorrectly. What you call whining I can concern for mine AND YOUR safety. If I hit you head on, you're at fault for your PnP junk.

Not everyone lives around hills, so you're incorrect again by saying cutoffs are more of a hazard. However, if anyone does happen to get caught under the cutoff, it surely won't be for as long as we are blinded by your glare-mobile which can be seen for miles.

And yes my eyes AND YOURS are itty bitty which is all the more reason to protect them! Go stare at the sun if your eyes really aren't that sensitive and then come back and tell me that PnP kits are a good idea.

People that drive with high beams on are ignorant. People that drive with PnP kits are twice as ignorant if not more, especially if they know how crappy their light output and hazardous glare are!!
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