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5th wheel towing with F150- I am doing it!!!!
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ISSUE
Step-by-Step instructions of how a user was able to tow his 5th wheel trailer for a trip with his family. Includes specifications of the hook-up, as well as tips and tricks for best practices and safety.
It is important to determine the maximum weight of:
• The pin
• Maximum trailer weight
Read below for full discussion…
http://www.f150forum.com/f38/5th-whe...m-doing-52823/
ISSUE
Step-by-Step instructions of how a user was able to tow his 5th wheel trailer for a trip with his family. Includes specifications of the hook-up, as well as tips and tricks for best practices and safety.
It is important to determine the maximum weight of:
• The pin
• Maximum trailer weight
Read below for full discussion…
5th wheel towing with F150- I am doing it!!!!
#441
Senior Member
I don't have twin turbos, lol! Be sweet if the 5.4 or even the 5.0 did. Imagine the hp and torque output!
#442
Ford first timer.
Thats HUGE !! Nicely done !!!
Mine tows great too! After owning a fifth it would be hard to go back to a bumper pull. Much easier going down the road.
I've averaged anywhere from 7.5 to a shocking 11.2 (only once) mpgs over my 6,000+ trouble free towing miles. My normal mpg is between 8.5 - 9.2.
Pic is when I bought the fifth last July on the first hook up.
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I've averaged anywhere from 7.5 to a shocking 11.2 (only once) mpgs over my 6,000+ trouble free towing miles. My normal mpg is between 8.5 - 9.2.
Pic is when I bought the fifth last July on the first hook up.
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#443
Bye F150, hello F250
Thread Starter
Not to broken-record this....
The 5.4L, or Ecoboost, will have little problem pulling a 10K treller. Almost always, the limiting factor WILL BE the GAWR (rear)- it will be maxxed out way before coming close to the 11.3K marketing speak.
The 5.4L, or Ecoboost, will have little problem pulling a 10K treller. Almost always, the limiting factor WILL BE the GAWR (rear)- it will be maxxed out way before coming close to the 11.3K marketing speak.
#444
The*gross vehicle weight rating*(GVWR) is the maximum operating weight of a*vehicle*as specified by the manufacturer*including the vehicle's*chassis, body,*engine, engine fluids, fuel, accessories, driver, passengers. Is that right ?
#445
Bye F150, hello F250
Thread Starter
Note, the GVWR will NOT be the sum of the GAWR front PLUS the GAWR rear. It will usually be under by a few hundred pounds. This is due to where/how the weight is distrubuted. For example, the GVWR might be 7800. The GAWR front might be 4000, the GAWR rear might be 4200. 4000 + 4200 = 8200, but the GVWR is 7800.
Lots to consider!
#446
Junior Member
I too pull a 5er and find the F150 quite capable.
Mine is not the "Heavy Half Ton" with the 10K lb trailer rating, but it seems to me that the primary difference is with the gear ratio of the differential. I have the .355 so I've installed a large capacity differential cover made of cast aluminum to help mitigate the heat production in the gears.
Since on long climbs the 5.0 wants to run at 5K rpm to maintain highway speed, the 6 speed transmission is typically in 2nd. The truck has a transmission cooler, but I also installed the extra capacity, cast aluminum transmission pan.
I beefed up the rear suspension with Firestone Ride Rite air bags to handle the 1375 kingpin weight.
The entire rig is 44 feet long, but articulates nicely and with the slider hitch I can back into most any campsite.
Without the 5er the truck gets over 18mpg but under the heavy load mpg drops to between 8 and 9. We don't do this for fuel economy, but it seems like it gets about the same mpg as most other configurations pulling this much trailer.
I get plenty of comments from the good old boys with their diesels, but I like the 5.0 engine and, with 360hp, it seems to do just fine (and no stinking, noisy diesel to maintain).
Mine is not the "Heavy Half Ton" with the 10K lb trailer rating, but it seems to me that the primary difference is with the gear ratio of the differential. I have the .355 so I've installed a large capacity differential cover made of cast aluminum to help mitigate the heat production in the gears.
Since on long climbs the 5.0 wants to run at 5K rpm to maintain highway speed, the 6 speed transmission is typically in 2nd. The truck has a transmission cooler, but I also installed the extra capacity, cast aluminum transmission pan.
I beefed up the rear suspension with Firestone Ride Rite air bags to handle the 1375 kingpin weight.
The entire rig is 44 feet long, but articulates nicely and with the slider hitch I can back into most any campsite.
Without the 5er the truck gets over 18mpg but under the heavy load mpg drops to between 8 and 9. We don't do this for fuel economy, but it seems like it gets about the same mpg as most other configurations pulling this much trailer.
I get plenty of comments from the good old boys with their diesels, but I like the 5.0 engine and, with 360hp, it seems to do just fine (and no stinking, noisy diesel to maintain).
Last edited by AZ5r; 04-27-2014 at 12:58 AM.
#447
Senior Member
diesels are no longer noisy, the new 6.7 is very quiet, people don't even know its a diesel, lol
#448
Junior Member
"quiet diesels"
"Diesels are no longer noisy"....maybe hearing goes second.
I cringe when, in a nice quiet campground, a diesel pulls in and is of course kept running for at least 20 minutes while checking in, picking a site, unhitching, etc.
I think the rattle of the diesel must provide much of its allure to the owner. It must be that it sounds so manly and powerful to him that it compensates for some anatomical deficiency. There's some real testosterone!
Gotta laugh when a big diesel pusher pulls into camp, taps the air horn a couple times, then a 4ft-11 guy climbs out to greet the world.
For me the quiet gasser is more than adequate, cheaper to buy, and cheaper to maintain while it pulls my 5r up an 8% grade all day.
But if you love a diesel, "more power to you", and if you pull in next to me some day, I'll be your new best friend.
I cringe when, in a nice quiet campground, a diesel pulls in and is of course kept running for at least 20 minutes while checking in, picking a site, unhitching, etc.
I think the rattle of the diesel must provide much of its allure to the owner. It must be that it sounds so manly and powerful to him that it compensates for some anatomical deficiency. There's some real testosterone!
Gotta laugh when a big diesel pusher pulls into camp, taps the air horn a couple times, then a 4ft-11 guy climbs out to greet the world.
For me the quiet gasser is more than adequate, cheaper to buy, and cheaper to maintain while it pulls my 5r up an 8% grade all day.
But if you love a diesel, "more power to you", and if you pull in next to me some day, I'll be your new best friend.
Last edited by AZ5r; 04-27-2014 at 06:56 PM.
#450
Senior Member
My 6.2 pulls like a hot damn. I've towed huge trailers with chevy 3500 gas jobs and my 6.2 will out pull it every day all day. With some air bags in the rear I belive a f150 can pull pretty much anything you put behind it. But they still don't compare to a diesel. With my diesel company pickup I can tow my holiday trailer at 120 km/h on cruise and it gets great milage.