5.0 vs 5.4
#11
Senior Member
The 5.0 is a great engine and in my mind superior to the 5.4.
Now I agree that the 5.0 has some work to do to meet the long term record of the 5.4 but I think its off to a good start. I also agree that the 5.4 was suited a little better for towing because of its lower torque curve but the 5.0 pulls hard and returns simillar if not better towing mileage .
From a driver's seat comparison I have driven two 5.4's. A 2007 crewcab xlt and a 2009 fx4. Although the six speed in the the 2009 really helps to wake the 5.4 up (cause the 4 speed in the 2007 felt like a slug when passing on the highway) it still cannot compete with my 5.0. If you drop the hammer on the highway the 5.0 will take off like a rocket no problem. From what I've read the 5.0 is getting 1-2 mpg better then the 5.4 and is a much more free reving engine.
I'd buy my 5.0 ten times over before I would buy a 5.4. But thats just my opinion.
If someone was looking for more of a deal there are a lot of 2009 - 2010 5.4's out there at a really great price and you'll still be getting a great engine, just not the most recent in terms of technology and power output.
Now I agree that the 5.0 has some work to do to meet the long term record of the 5.4 but I think its off to a good start. I also agree that the 5.4 was suited a little better for towing because of its lower torque curve but the 5.0 pulls hard and returns simillar if not better towing mileage .
From a driver's seat comparison I have driven two 5.4's. A 2007 crewcab xlt and a 2009 fx4. Although the six speed in the the 2009 really helps to wake the 5.4 up (cause the 4 speed in the 2007 felt like a slug when passing on the highway) it still cannot compete with my 5.0. If you drop the hammer on the highway the 5.0 will take off like a rocket no problem. From what I've read the 5.0 is getting 1-2 mpg better then the 5.4 and is a much more free reving engine.
I'd buy my 5.0 ten times over before I would buy a 5.4. But thats just my opinion.
If someone was looking for more of a deal there are a lot of 2009 - 2010 5.4's out there at a really great price and you'll still be getting a great engine, just not the most recent in terms of technology and power output.
#12
coming from a 5.4 lariat (2009) crew to a 2011 Fx4 crew 5.0... for daily driving around town i liked to 5.4. little smoother stop and go. both tow very well up to their capability. both great motors. if the 5.0 didnt come out i dont think this would be a matter of discussion and the 5.4 would still be the best engine available in a half ton.
i have also driven a 3/4 ton crew with 5.4 and i tell you what it pulls pretty damn good!! so to say it is not as good is hard for me to say!
i have also driven a 3/4 ton crew with 5.4 and i tell you what it pulls pretty damn good!! so to say it is not as good is hard for me to say!
#15
If you've driven an 08 or earlier 5.4 with the 4sp and then drove an 09-10 with the 6sp you will be impressed. I have ownd both and the 5.4-6sp preforms way better than the older ones. Is it on par with the 5.0, don't know never drove one. But what I do know is it will pull my 7200lb TT anywhere I want and I have only once or twice wished I had more power. The 5.0 may have given me more power but at higher rpms. The EB would've passed both though. I get 14-15 in town, and a steady 18 @70 mph. Plus the 5.4 has been around forever and in IMO is rock solid. I feel the same to a degree about the 5.0, still waiting on the EB 3.5. I doubt you will be dissapointed with the 5.4 6sp. Now the tranny is another story all together. The 2011 6sp has the select shift feature which is needed when towing. But if your just towing some or not at all you won't miss it. All the 6spds from 09-12 are having some issues. Not everyone by any means but theres no discrimination in years for problems to pop up. Lots of TSB's to help, but it seems like a good dealers service department is just as important.
#16
Senior Member
My 5.4 offered a high level of proven reliability with enough power for my needs. Fuel efficiency, as many are discovering, is not dramatically different from the current engine offerings. The new engines sound great but I prefer to buy towards the end of an engine life cycle rather than the first year.
Last edited by eye.surgeon; 02-08-2012 at 04:28 PM.
#17
Brianm825
My personal ride has the new 5.0L; its a **** ton faster then the 4.6L and 5.4L; I just hope it can stand up to the abuse the old Modular V8's can handle.
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#18
The 5.4 is a very mature motor. I personally had no problems with mine, it towed well and got reasonably good gas mileage. Give the 5.0/EB 10 years of refinement and I think the comparison will be easy. The only thing that really kept me from getting the 5.0 in my new truck was the torque curve. When I tow I like the twist to come in a little earlier that it offered.
Bottom line is after a few years I think it is going to be clear that the 5.0 is a better motor than the 5.4. I think it has a lot to live up to ( I really liked the 5.4) but it has a strong pedigree.
Bottom line is after a few years I think it is going to be clear that the 5.0 is a better motor than the 5.4. I think it has a lot to live up to ( I really liked the 5.4) but it has a strong pedigree.
#19
Senior Member
Since I have not driven a truck or car with the 5.0 I really can't compare. However there is one thing that I know is fact. The 4.6/5.4 engine is a long lasting tough engine. And for me thats all I need. I didn't buy my truck to run fast quarter mile times. I have an old Mustang for that with a true dinosour 5.0.
I work in downtown Chicago and the best example of these modular engines is all the old beat up Crown Victoria cab's running around. They all have over 200k miles, are not well maintained, and beat to he11 in the worst driving conditions possible. But they keep running and running and running. Nuff said!
I work in downtown Chicago and the best example of these modular engines is all the old beat up Crown Victoria cab's running around. They all have over 200k miles, are not well maintained, and beat to he11 in the worst driving conditions possible. But they keep running and running and running. Nuff said!
#20