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Old 04-11-2014, 12:56 AM
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Originally Posted by warriorsfan177
A Procharger is not a turbo....
From the picture I saw it looked like a Turbo. It is indeed a Supercharger.
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Originally Posted by jedeckert1984
From the picture I saw it looked like a Turbo. It is indeed a Supercharger.
It's a centrifugal supercharger which is essentially a belt-driven turbocharger, and quite different in appearance and function to a roots type blower aka positive displacement supercharger.
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Originally Posted by Sweatmachine
It's a centrifugal supercharger which is essentially a belt-driven turbocharger, and quite different in appearance and function to a roots type blower aka positive displacement supercharger.
Since it's a centrifugal and uses a belt, does that help (don't want to say eliminate) but maybe eliminate the turbo lag?
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[MENTION=156789]HBRacing[/MENTION] was in the production/testing phase of a twin turbo set-up on the 13 5.0's. I haven't heard much more about them, but their shop gets busier once race season starts so it may be on the backburner. Here is the thread.

https://www.f150forum.com/f70/5-0-tu...derway-225302/
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Originally Posted by jedeckert1984
Since it's a centrifugal and uses a belt, does that help (don't want to say eliminate) but maybe eliminate the turbo lag?
Yes and no.

Yes because like any supercharger, it's driven by the crank and so it's always turning, therefore, full throttle will produce some amount of boost. A centrifugal doesn't make instant full boost like a positive displacement blower does though, it ramps up as the RPMs increase, giving smooth, linear power. They tend to be better on topend than PD blowers and softer on lowend.

No because modern turbos have virtually eliminated lag provided they are properly sized for the application and tuned correctly.

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What are your plans for the truck? We u race it? Or is for street use? Honestly I love the procharger idea but like turbo's they are better top end power adders and not as fun for street use. I rather go twinscrew because of all the lowend tq which for a street truck would be perfect. Just my thoughts.
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I have looked into this too for my 4.6. Everywhere I have went basically said a supercharger is the most common application that works for daily driver. I see alot of whipple superchargers out here. I havent seen any turbos.
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It's really all dependent on the purpose of why you want the extra performance.

All superchargers have parasitic loss that is taken from the engine and can be upwards of 30%, roots supercharger (rousch, eaton, edlebrock, etc) are typically the cheapest. They give instant boost and torque. And are a good solution for ppl that want that instant noticeable response.
Then there are twin screws (kenne bell, whipple) they have the same concept of the roots but are much more efficient- less parasitic drag and lower intake air temps.

The centrifugal superchargers vortech, procharger, Paxton have very linear power bands and are god choices for racers but still have high parasitic losses.

Turbos are quite efficient, they have no parasitic loss that is robbed from the engine but do create the known "lag" but if setup correct can be quite unnoticeable, turbos are typically much more complicated and costly which is why they are usually not an option more most.

They can create phenomenal torque and hp and are a great choice for most applications
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Been through the hellion kit on my old 5.0 stang and it is sick for power. But turbos require a good amount of maintenance when you add them to a originally designed NA setup.
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Basically would just be looking at this for a mild performance mod. Huge singles or a twin kit wouldn't be considered. After coming from the turbo diesel side of things and a few supercharged/turbo vehicles boost is addicting. Not looking make a dyno record, but just curious as to how the 5.0 f150s would respond to a mild turbo setup as compared to the already available charger options. As far as cost, it's hard to argue that turbos cost more. Even with stainless piping, large core coolers, and a quality turbo you're still most likely to be significantly less in the end as compared to most supercharger kits.

It just makes me curious to how a turbo 5.0 would perform in the f150 as seeing how the mustang guys are starting to dial them in. Tuning truly makes or breaks a turbo setup, but most quality tuners can even get you 90% on through data logs and email tunes if you don't have a dyno readily available.


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