msgross

I listened again and mine wasn't knocking this morning, definitely not like the one's on youtube. With this catch can installed I'll track how much I lose via the PCV system for the next oil change. Overall my truck runs great though.

bwFX42006

Same here, except its a 2012 with almost 81,000. Runs awesome, burns no oil. Just knocks. I don't get it.

Cj7jeepoffroad

I'm just going to get a louder exhaust......

bwFX42006

I have a roush exhaust straight out the back. Helps drown out any strange noises...

97Widerider

I to have worked myself into a frenzy over this issue. Spent hours and hours researching hoping to find something that will make me feel better about my 2013 5.0 (Essex plant build 09/12) but really nothing has. I am not experiencing the knock, tick, slap, diesel noise and have 42,000 miles with 10 months of warranty left. I don't drive alot, about 7,000 miles a year. From what I have read, there is no rhyme or reason to when it starts. Some have reported as many as 100,000 miles before experiencing the issue. There doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason to how the dealerships are handling the noise either. Some say its normal and some are quick to replace the short blcok.


I decided to call a local Ford dealership that gets great reviews on Yelp and was directed to the service manager who was very friendly, especially to someone who wasn't a customer yet. He basically acknowledged the issue of block distortion but said he has seen no 13s with the issue although he didn't say it couldn't or wouldn't happen. In essence, he didn't deny the problem existed. He further stated that he hasn't seen any 11 or 12s in a long time with the problem either so assumed that the issue got worked out early on. This made me feel just a smidge better.


Too bad we (the forum community) can't all get together and create a reporting system on who has the knock, who has had block's replaced etc. The build dates should be reported as well so maybe we, the community, can narrow down (somewhat) which trucks can possibly be effected.


Just a shame I have a beautiful well maintained truck that I am always goind to have a doubt to it's reliability in the back of my mind. I guess most of us with 11, 12, and 13 model years will have that. ;

Cj7jeepoffroad

I think your making a mountain out of mole hill, I would guess there's a relatively low number of trucks that have had the blocks replaced because of engine knock (no matter what the year) I think the 5.0 that knock while still under warranty that have owners that complain enough get changed, other wise they go on running great for many many miles, knocking away at idle.

paintballdude05

This right here

Koolponycar

i believe you all are right. Unless it is significantly knocking they all will probably run many miles. Even the Ford tech MAkuloco who replaces one on youtube said it is not detrimental to the engine, but all the replacements for the early builds show to be a 2014 block or engine, at least that is what shows in TASCA Ford parts. Makuloco said Ford purged all the older blocks when they knew they had a problem. So the 2014 is the updated design. Which means if you trade get at least a 2014. mine has actually been more quiet lately, that is weird.

97Widerider

I am really surprised that this hasn't been a class action law suit. If Ford knows a problem existed (bad blocks for a number of years, dates, runs, whatver) then why hasn't a group of pissed off customers got together and sued? My 2013 Honda Odyssey is at the HOnda dealer as I write this getting new piston rings in cylinders 1, 2 , and 3. I guess there was a "batch of bad rings" or something like that where customers were getting misfires and excessive oil consumption (as I did) due to piston ring misalignment. This is no small job either. The engine is removed. Pursuant to the lawsuit, Honda extended their factory warranty to 8 years from purchase and unlimited miles when cylinders 1, 2, 3, and/or 4 misfire. I doubt if Honda is held to a higher standard by our courts, so why hasn't this Ford issue been letigated?


The only reason I can think of is that maybe all the short block replacements were done under the factory warranty and those owners couldn't really file a complaint since it was covered under warranty? Maybe all the ones that currently have the noise are just living with it? I just can't imagine any owner having a small block replacement out of warranty , getting hit with a $7,000 - $8000 bill taking it laying down.

Final thought, if the knock isn't detrimental to the longevity of the engine, why does Ford agree to take on such a job under warranty? Are these the ones that are misfiring and have compression loss? I can only assume that the noise is not detrrimental when these two factors are absent? How long can a piston "dance around" in a chamber until one of these things happen? Not being smart alec, I really am ignorant to this.

BUILTTOLAST

It's said to not be detrimental to the engine.
Not all were replaced under warranty,just the customers who squawked enough did (the squeaky wheel gets the grease).
Most were just told it was normal and were shown the door.
I'm sure this hasn't turned into a recall/TSB because Ford is about the bottom line,money,shareholders etc.Im sure their philosophy is "The customers who really squawk about their engines,replace them,the ones who don't,it's money saved".
My fix was to trade my 2011 5.0 XTR,whitch slightly knocked intermittently and burned a little oil, in on my new 2014 5.0 Platinum (whisper quiet and 0 oil consumption).

No regrets.
Love it.