5.0 Engine Knock
#101
got mule?
For anyone who has a knock/tick on start up while idling, I've only seen one person who had something similar to what I hear on my truck under load. Sounds like metal banging in the passenger footwell area, but as the truck has to be under load, very hard to assess. Tech rode with me, didn't know what it was, suggested pinging and higher quality/octane. Well I filled up with top tier 87, still did it, poured in some STP octane booster, still does it, but a little quieter I guess. Been doing this for 20,000 miles, so I'm guessing it's nothing catastrophic to the engine, but I'm at a loss to figure it out. Any ideas? I've checked heat shields, disconnected the battery to let it re-learn fuel trim, different fuel, different octane, taken off skid plates, and tapped on the cat with a rubber mallet all to no effect. Any time I ask at the dealer it's "we can't replicate" or "use top quality gas."
Had the truck back awhile and it's night and day. This motor is up to snuff, quiet and pulls up hill. No more 1200 RPM epilepsy in the tranny either. Very smooth and to be honest it feels more more peppy.
#102
Senior Member
I finally took a video of mine. Late model 2011 (9/2011 build date) with 25,000 miles that knocks as the engine is warming up. It's quiet at cold start and it pretty much disappears when the engine is at operating temp. But this is what it sounds like idling while it's warming up. I think the cold temps we are having makes it more pronounced. As stated in numerous threads, it's loudest on the passenger side. The truck runs great and hardly uses any oil. My drive train warranty is up 10/2016...not sure what to do honestly.
#104
Senior Member
Thanks for the response. My truck runs fine as well, smooth as butter and flies like a rocket. If this truly is 'piston slap' it may not be worth the risk of ford tearing into things. However, reading some others folks reporting oblong cylinder bores causing the issue has me a bit concerned.
#105
Senior Member
OK. I read thru about 50% of the responses in the thread and didn't find if there was a resolution to the OP's question, and it sounds like there's a significant number of members who might have a similar issue. I can only relate my experience with my '09 and a similar noise that happened with only 500 miles on the odo. The sound was not a tick like the injectors but a very pronounced deep knock that occurred once the engine was warmed and was pronounced between idle and about 1700-1800 RPMs. I can best describe it as very similar to a low rod knock, but higher in the engine. The dealer diagnosed the noise as a faulty VVT assembly--I don't remember if it was the solenoid, the valve, or the cam phaser--and once replaced, the engine was and still is quiet as church mouse. Just a thought….
Here's the post from my April 2009 warranty fix (FYI--This was obviously NOT the 5.0 motor, but rather the 4.6):
Here's a video of the phaser noise in a 5.4-3V (noise is heard at 3:45 in the video):
Here's the post from my April 2009 warranty fix (FYI--This was obviously NOT the 5.0 motor, but rather the 4.6):
Finally got my truck back after 6 days in the shop. They did replace the right-side VVT hardware--solenoid control valve and cam phaser. Mechanic said he did an oil pressure check to make sure it wasn't an oil feed problem, and he said he inspected the cam journals for signs of oil starvation/blueing and it all spec'd out OK. The knock is gone and the engine sounds great, so hear's hoping!
Last edited by icantdrive55; 02-23-2015 at 12:38 PM.
#106
Georgia Tech
Compression test each cylinder? That's one of the first steps they did to diagnose mine. Cyl 4 was way off.
Had the truck back awhile and it's night and day. This motor is up to snuff, quiet and pulls up hill. No more 1200 RPM epilepsy in the tranny either. Very smooth and to be honest it feels more more peppy.
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2012 5.0 ex-cab xlt with 40,400 milage (built in late 2011)
I too am experiencing a slight knock at idle when the engineis warm. It is loud enough for me to hear it in the truck with the windows up. Same as most of you; the knock is coming from the passenger side. I am going totake it into the local dealer and see what they have to say. Hopefully it goeswell.
I am apprehensive to have the engine replaced though. Backwhen I first bought the truck I had the lifters, or as ford called themTappets, replaced because it had a bad tapping sound and the truck only had 130miles on it.
I too am experiencing a slight knock at idle when the engineis warm. It is loud enough for me to hear it in the truck with the windows up. Same as most of you; the knock is coming from the passenger side. I am going totake it into the local dealer and see what they have to say. Hopefully it goeswell.
I am apprehensive to have the engine replaced though. Backwhen I first bought the truck I had the lifters, or as ford called themTappets, replaced because it had a bad tapping sound and the truck only had 130miles on it.
#108
Ford Customer Service
2012 5.0 ex-cab xlt with 40,400 milage (built in late 2011)
I too am experiencing a slight knock at idle when the engineis warm. It is loud enough for me to hear it in the truck with the windows up. Same as most of you; the knock is coming from the passenger side. I am going totake it into the local dealer and see what they have to say. Hopefully it goeswell.
I am apprehensive to have the engine replaced though. Backwhen I first bought the truck I had the lifters, or as ford called themTappets, replaced because it had a bad tapping sound and the truck only had 130miles on it.
I too am experiencing a slight knock at idle when the engineis warm. It is loud enough for me to hear it in the truck with the windows up. Same as most of you; the knock is coming from the passenger side. I am going totake it into the local dealer and see what they have to say. Hopefully it goeswell.
I am apprehensive to have the engine replaced though. Backwhen I first bought the truck I had the lifters, or as ford called themTappets, replaced because it had a bad tapping sound and the truck only had 130miles on it.
Brittany
#109
Getting tired of this friggin knock. Posted my video below.
Brittany [MENTION=47652]FordService[/MENTION], according to the two dealers I've been through (and the second dealer's calls to Ford Tech), Ford's viewpoint is that the sound in my video is normal? And Ford's not embarrassed when I tell people "No, I don't have a diesel."?
Brittany [MENTION=47652]FordService[/MENTION], according to the two dealers I've been through (and the second dealer's calls to Ford Tech), Ford's viewpoint is that the sound in my video is normal? And Ford's not embarrassed when I tell people "No, I don't have a diesel."?
Last edited by ls67nova; 03-26-2015 at 10:02 PM.
#110
Ford Customer Service
Getting tired of this friggin knock. Posted my video below.
Brittany [MENTION=47652]FordService[/MENTION], according to the two dealers I've been through (and the second dealer's calls to Ford Tech), Ford's viewpoint is that the sound in my video is normal? And Ford's not embarrassed when I tell people "No, I don't have a diesel."?
Brittany [MENTION=47652]FordService[/MENTION], according to the two dealers I've been through (and the second dealer's calls to Ford Tech), Ford's viewpoint is that the sound in my video is normal? And Ford's not embarrassed when I tell people "No, I don't have a diesel."?
Brittany