2011+ 55-60mph 5.0 Shuddering and EcoBoost Engine Miss/Loss of Power - Possible Fixes
11-03-2012, 06:25 PM
#2051
Senior Member
Originally Posted by VoiceOfReason
You guys aren't going to get anywhere with these tactics. From Ford's perspective, 95% of their problems are coming from 5% of their customers (YOU). Yes they ultimately have a responsibility to fix these and other legitimate issues with their products. They do NOT have any responsibility to YOU.
You can't please everybody, and anybody that tries to never succeeds, in any business. If you were my customers I would have bought back your "lemons", happily refunded your money, and banished you from ever doing business with me again.
The fact that these issues have been recreated on trucks that otherwise run fine have given you more than enough information to fix your own problems. Stop whining.
You can't please everybody, and anybody that tries to never succeeds, in any business. If you were my customers I would have bought back your "lemons", happily refunded your money, and banished you from ever doing business with me again.
The fact that these issues have been recreated on trucks that otherwise run fine have given you more than enough information to fix your own problems. Stop whining.
They ended up having to repair the pinion seal but have yet to address the shift issue. I'm far from a whiner after now WAY too many trips back for repair. Like I've said before, Ford will view cust serv much differently if another manufacturer develops an engine to compete with the ecoboost and they realize a loss in sales. It's business, you're right, and they owe me nothing more than honor the warranty.
11-03-2012, 07:19 PM
#2052
Junior Member
Gfys
You guys aren't going to get anywhere with these tactics. From Ford's perspective, 95% of their problems are coming from 5% of their customers (YOU). Yes they ultimately have a responsibility to fix these and other legitimate issues with their products. They do NOT have any responsibility to YOU.
You can't please everybody, and anybody that tries to never succeeds, in any business. If you were my customers I would have bought back your "lemons", happily refunded your money, and banished you from ever doing business with me again.
The fact that these issues have been recreated on trucks that otherwise run fine have given you more than enough information to fix your own problems. Stop whining.
You can't please everybody, and anybody that tries to never succeeds, in any business. If you were my customers I would have bought back your "lemons", happily refunded your money, and banished you from ever doing business with me again.
The fact that these issues have been recreated on trucks that otherwise run fine have given you more than enough information to fix your own problems. Stop whining.
Yes, Ford does owe me something. This is a business agreement. I purchased a product that they promised would operate correctly. It doesn't. And they have to fix it. End of discussion.
Now, this is when you tell me that you run a Fortune 500 company and that this attitude has served you well in the business environment for decades and that this self-made man you are is rich beyond his wildest dreams because of his uncanny business acumen and prowess...blah, blah, blah. Go troll somewhere else, *******.
11-03-2012, 10:33 PM
#2053
Sorry but i did not read through the 200+ pages to see if this was mentioned. But....
I had the same issues and symptoms. A tech at the dealer found that a pc of foam from behind the fender became loose and was blocking the air intake.
Reached up pulled it out, reset the computer and fixed! never happened again.
Just a FYI.
I had the same issues and symptoms. A tech at the dealer found that a pc of foam from behind the fender became loose and was blocking the air intake.
Reached up pulled it out, reset the computer and fixed! never happened again.
Just a FYI.
11-04-2012, 09:24 AM
#2054
Senior Member
You guys aren't going to get anywhere with these tactics. From Ford's perspective, 95% of their problems are coming from 5% of their customers (YOU). Yes they ultimately have a responsibility to fix these and other legitimate issues with their products. They do NOT have any responsibility to YOU.
You can't please everybody, and anybody that tries to never succeeds, in any business. If you were my customers I would have bought back your "lemons", happily refunded your money, and banished you from ever doing business with me again.
The fact that these issues have been recreated on trucks that otherwise run fine have given you more than enough information to fix your own problems. Stop whining.
You can't please everybody, and anybody that tries to never succeeds, in any business. If you were my customers I would have bought back your "lemons", happily refunded your money, and banished you from ever doing business with me again.
The fact that these issues have been recreated on trucks that otherwise run fine have given you more than enough information to fix your own problems. Stop whining.
Voice of Reason? Maybe a name change would be appropriate at this point!
11-04-2012, 10:09 AM
#2057
Senior Member
I agree. I think Voice of Ford sounds about right. He never did get back to us about how his latest spark plug gapping and air pressure adjustment worked out for him as far as solving the shudder issue. I'm thinking he needs to do the air pressure adjustments in 1/4lb increments to find the sweet spot.
11-04-2012, 10:19 AM
#2058
Senior Member
Originally Posted by 88mm
Sorry but i did not read through the 200+ pages to see if this was mentioned. But....
I had the same issues and symptoms. A tech at the dealer found that a pc of foam from behind the fender became loose and was blocking the air intake.
Reached up pulled it out, reset the computer and fixed! never happened again.
Just a FYI.
I had the same issues and symptoms. A tech at the dealer found that a pc of foam from behind the fender became loose and was blocking the air intake.
Reached up pulled it out, reset the computer and fixed! never happened again.
Just a FYI.
Now if something there gets wet in the rain and loosens up, sucks up against the air intake under full throttle.....
Perhaps some owners who can repeat the fall on it's face issue could investigate this possibility.
Of course this does nothing for those with a cold air intake with different air entry locations.
11-04-2012, 11:39 AM
#2059
Senior Member
Originally Posted by dcfluid
Well, look at this, a useful response that people can actually look at if curious enough.
Now if something there gets wet in the rain and loosens up, sucks up against the air intake under full throttle.....
Perhaps some owners who can repeat the fall on it's face issue could investigate this possibility.
Of course this does nothing for those with a cold air intake with different air entry locations.
11-04-2012, 12:10 PM
#2060
Senior Member
Watch all the video's by this user. i'd be thoroughly p*issed off too if my truck ran like this guys does. Even had a taped conversation with a FORD rep, and all she could do is provide excuses and tell him he selected the "wrong" truck to tow with! LOL
Not sure this guy is a member on this forum, but he should be. (video looks better if you go directly to youtube)
http://www.youtube.com/user/kelley350x?feature=watch
Not sure this guy is a member on this forum, but he should be. (video looks better if you go directly to youtube)
http://www.youtube.com/user/kelley350x?feature=watch
Last edited by gregsf150stx; 11-04-2012 at 12:13 PM.
