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Old 02-18-2017, 09:02 PM
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RNLCOMP - I am not disagreeing. Tasca shows them different.

As far as the fuse overheating, the fuel pump runs all the time. Other loads are intermittent. They might draw the same amps as the fuel pump but have a less than 100% duty cycle. Once a connection starts to heat, it typically loses tension (tightness) or oxidizes the metal either of which will increase resistance and lead to failure. Much like water overtopping an earthen dam.
Do the >=2015 trucks still use the same small fuse?
I can't tell by looking at the owners manual.

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Originally Posted by Feathermerchant
RNLCOMP - I am not disagreeing. Tasca shows them different.

As far as the fuse overheating, the fuel pump runs all the time. Other loads are intermittent. They might draw the same amps as the fuel pump but have a less than 100% duty cycle. Once a connection starts to heat, it typically loses tension (tightness) or oxidizes the metal either of which will increase resistance and lead to failure. Much like water overtopping an earthen dam.
Do the >=2015 trucks still use the same small fuse?
I can't tell by looking at the owners manual.
There are two different in tank fuel pumps, one for the 3.7, 5.0. and 6.2, the other for the TT 3.5. There also seems to be a difference if the truck is 2 or 4wd for what ever reason.

The DI TT 3.5 also has an injection fuel pump. Yes that application has two (2) fuel pumps.

What part are you confused with? I'm not looking at a parts fiche, I'm looking at a Ford service manual. Can't comment on the 15> as I do not have access to those documents.
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It was asked above if all trucks use the same fuel pump. It was a guy with a NA V6 I think.
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I looked at the 2015 owners manual to see if the same size 20A fuse is used. I cannot tell by the diagram but it does not look like the big square one that comes in the repair kit here.
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Originally Posted by 4Stroke
I think this fuse/socket issue is not an amp problem but a (loose) connection problem.
This man gets it.
It is that simple. My fix was to use NOALOX. Prevents corrosion and might help with female connection resistance.
High resistance = heat = failure.
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Originally Posted by Feathermerchant
It was asked above if all trucks use the same fuel pump. It was a guy with a NA V6 I think.
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I looked at the 2015 owners manual to see if the same size 20A fuse is used. I cannot tell by the diagram but it does not look like the big square one that comes in the repair kit here.
I have a friend/neighbor that has a 2016, I'll check to see what "size" fuse is used on his truck.
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Originally Posted by 2jhanna
I have a friend/neighbor that has a 2016, I'll check to see what "size" fuse is used on his truck.
Fuse #56 20A, according to owners manual.
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Originally Posted by Lee308
This man gets it.
It is that simple. My fix was to use NOALOX. Prevents corrosion and might help with female connection resistance.
High resistance = heat = failure.


I have struggled with female connection resistance for a long time. I have found that alcohol helps quite a bit.
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Originally Posted by 4Stroke
Fuse #56 20A, according to owners manual.
This seems to be the larger "cartridge" style fuse, instead of the mini fuse. So Ford at least fixed it on the new models.

As I commented above, when I did the mod Saturday afternoon, the target wire is a very stiff 12 gauge wire. Much beefier looking than the dinky little socket and fuse.
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Originally Posted by clm65
I have struggled with female connection resistance for a long time. I have found that alcohol helps quite a bit.
Maybe "you" should try the NOALOX stuff.
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Originally Posted by 2jhanna
This seems to be the larger "cartridge" style fuse, instead of the mini fuse. So Ford at least fixed it on the new models.

As I commented above, when I did the mod Saturday afternoon, the target wire is a very stiff 12 gauge wire. Much beefier looking than the dinky little socket and fuse.
Yes, it shows it as a cartridge type fuse.


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