kenn_chan

yes and it should cost between 800~1700 depending upon manufacture and what they include. My RCS kit cost like 1700 retail though I did not pay but 1400 ish with shipping included.

basically you can level with the torsion bars any more than that and you will be replaceing cv joints, ball joint etc. on a yearly (or sooner) basis. if you only wnat three inches buy a good 4 or 5 inch suspension kit put all of the front suspension parts in and the adjust the T-Bars till the front lower arms are level with the ground then when you put the rear blocks, or springs (depending upon the cost of the kit you bought).

Most kits will give a 1" nose down attitude when set like this, some will give a level ride with this.

the kit I bouhgt was a 4~5" kit IE if installed correctly it was a four inch kit with the front being an inch lower than the back. If you cranked the tbars slightly you could get a leveled 5" lift without any damage to the front end.

hope this helps with you decisions.

Kenn

Barfly

I cranked up my torsion bars on my '98 to give me around 1.5-2" and was able to put 285/75/16's and had lots of room for turning and suspension travel. Yes, it will ride a bit harsher, but nothing horrible. Looks good setup like this.

I wanted to go bigger though, so I recently put on a 5" superlift, added blocks and lift shackle in the back, and am currently sourcing a set of long leaf add-a-leafs for the rear as well. Between what I have on plus the add-a-leaf, I will have enough room for 36's comfortably.

Bug10

Im probably gonna do about an inch to inch and a half. Just level it out a bit

sportster07

Suspension lifts are miles ahead of a levelling kit or cranked t-bars but 33's are too small for a 4 inch.

Bug10

One of my concerns. And I don't really wanna pay for anything over 33.

Dirttracker18

Not true and ignorant fear mongering at its best.

CV joints? Seriously? You do realize that most kits result in increased CV angle right? The increase by cranking torsion bars is pretty small overall.

Cranking the torsion bars will cause some premature wear but it is minimal. A proper alignment after leveling is important to correct the geogometry of the front end.

There are literally thousands of trucks leveled with bar cranks only that are not falling apart every year.

Now adding a block and aftermarket keys is starting to push the envelop but will still not result in replacing parts yearly.

Bug10

I think I've just decided on a level. Largely because im running of a 16 year olds pay at a grocery store. Haha. But I think itll look and work pretty well.

Dirttracker18

My previous two trucks both rode on torsion bars and I leveled both with no more issues then I have experienced prior.

My buddies truck has been levelled with blocks and keys for 10 years now and I cannot say that the frequency of wear on front end parts seemed any worse then prior or what would be expected. However the angles for his ball joints are pretty extreme with the excessive crack of aftermarket keys.

If you want to fit 33's, a little crank to get level will be fine. If you want to go anymore then that I would look at a true lift.

sportster07

Oh really? I thought I was fine too until I ended up needing a ton of front end parts (idler arm, all ball joints, tie rod ends, upper control arms). Then I thought I was good for awhile but nope, those wore out too. Before the level on 33's I had no problems.

Dirttracker18

I would start looking for what is causing your issues then. Did you use quality parts?

The larger tires are harder on the front end then the level itself.

My buddies truck had five years of hard use as he is an avid fisher and hunter. He doesn't beat on it but it is off road a lot. He is keyed and blocked. Last fall we did some front end work, five years since it required anything else. We use Moog parts on his truck.

My 04 is leveled, strut spacers and 33s but the same principle of geometry changes. Three years since I did the level and I had to replace one outer tie rod and one ball joint this summer. Fours years since any other previous front end work and three with the level in.

I am no internet troll either. My previous career was an automotive mechanic and I have 20 years experience designing, building, maintaining and driving race cars and am stilled called on to help do front end set ups. I know what I am talking about and speak from both knowledge and experience.